Too Controversial...

Sat Dec 31 00:40:33 UTC 2005

I don't understand. . . what did I miss here? 

Anyone can build technology. Technology is just a form, like a container. People put their own stuff in it. . . like I put my words my way in my email . . . 

I think Sequoyah was very interested in education. In his time, 95% of the people in his Tribe(?)/Nation(?) were literate. I had a friend whose grandmother was on the Trail of Tears, and he knew a lot about the history. There are also lots of writings. The Tsalagi had a newspaper, and books. 

So what'd I miss here? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Katherine M.Humphrey
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:10 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] Too Controversial...

However, this would be too controversial if widely taught to non-Kituwas, and Sequoyah probably just rolled over in his grave...  

----- Original Message -----
From: Mia Kalish <MiaKalish at LEARNINGFORPEOPLE.US>
Date: Friday, December 30, 2005 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Hawaiian Language: Okay, here's the deal

> People have been writing and writing about the materials I make, 
> and suggesting other languages they can be made in.  . . 
> 
> So here's the deal. If people what to have some in their own 
> languages, we have the following options: 
> 1. Record the numbers 1-100 in digital format and send it to me. 
> If you put it on the web as an MP3 or wav file, I can download. 
> Avoid RealAudio. I can't process it. 
> 2. Ditto for colors, shapes, and road signs (See 
> http://LearningForPeople.us/8Days) 
> 3. I will make the materials for you, zip them up and send you a 
> copy. I would also like to put them on my site, especially to 
> encourage others. 
> 4. I am developing an online course (encouraged by Jan, thank you 
> very much, Jan) on how to make the materials. I will provide the 
> templates and the instruction. Participants will make their own. 
> This should make people really happy, because now they won't be 
> dependent on someone else. 
> 5. If you have specialized materials, write to me and we can make 
> new templates for them. I use a generalized form for the moment, 
> but there is no reason why we can't make new ones. 
> 6. If we need fonts, I can make those also. I think my 2nd online 
> course will be about how to make fonts. Imagine a world of Ndn 
> fonts. . . :-) I do. 
> 
> Mia
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology 
> [ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jan Tucker
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:27 AM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] Hawaiian Language courses online now, 
> Beginning in Jan 2006
> 
> Phil and all,
> Kamehameha Schools Distance Learning language program online 
> http://ksdl.ksbe.edu/kulaiwi/
> Here there are eighteen Real audio language presentations. Very 
> enjoyable "kumu" or teacher, and at Low bandwidth, I could see it 
> with my Starband satellite uplink. I couldn't access the broadband 
> however and see anything only hear. The lesson features call in 
> question, and wonderful in context language vignettes, and it's 
> live on TV for those calling in. ON the net they only have the 
> recorded lessons, so it's not live on the net.
> 
> Mia you could probably make another pronunciation flash movie from 
> this audio, the font was English with two symbols which she 
> described but were hard to see. I'm sure here will be written 
> examples in the copious support materials and work book to 
> download. I was fascinated by the vowel pronunciation 
> presentation. 
> 
> ALSO....Oh below is another online class offered in the fall and 
> it has font materials. It's not too expensive either 240 dollars. 
> There are three levels of Beginning Hawaiian
> 
> "Aha Pūnana Leo is proud to announce the start of Hawaiian 
> Language classes on the web. In conjunction with its consortium 
> partner, Ka Haka ʻUla O Keʻelikōlani College of Hawaiian Language 
> of the University of Hawaiʻi at Hilo, the ʻAha Punana Leo will 
> begin teaching classes in January 2006.  Coursework is based on 
> the textbook Nā Kai ʻEwalu, written by William H. “Pila” Wilson 
> and Kauanoe Kamanā." 
> 
> Lessons for the classes have been formatted for delivery on the 
> Hawaiian Language intranet, Leokī. The Leokī client is free, as 
> are the fonts, Hawaiian Keyboard and other resources students will 
> need. Click here to learn more: 
> http://www.ahapunanaleo.org/papa.htm 
> 
> 
> Another online course http://ksdl.ksbe.edu/kulaiwi/ 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
> [ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]On Behalf Of phil cash cash
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:11 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] ILAT update
> 
> 
> Thanks Jan for your willingness to share your work.  I think your 
> onlinecourse in Cherokee may be a first of this kind here in the US.
> 
> Phil
> 
> Quoting Jan Tucker <jtucker at STARBAND.NET>:
> 
> > Phil, I stared out on the H-AmIndian listserver and moved to 
> ILAT 
> > about a year ago, and am hooked now on the great information on 
> > language revitalization. I'm working hard to find a way to do 
> > something of value for language learners and teachers, and am 
> > inspired by all that is posted here. Also impressed with what is 
> > being done by those on this list. I can just take so much bad 
> news 
> > about language loss. This listserver has balanced my view of 
> language 
> > revitalization efforts and I've really enjoyed reading from the 
> > varied voices, promoting language learning.
> >
> > I'm still working on my website between my day job and will have 
> > something to share soon. I had to move to a new server, download 
> a 
> > new version of free courseware, and I'm testing it and revising 
> a 
> > demo Language Learning Resource Course for Cherokee. I'll share 
> soon. 
> > My goal is to get people started using online courseware for 
> > supplementing other kinds of language learning and have a model 
> for 
> > how they can develop a course. They should be able to put up a 
> course 
> > that they completely control at minimum cost on their own 
> website or 
> > server. This is what I've done. Just have to perfect it before I 
> show 
> > it.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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