LSA 2006

[Susan Penfield]

Maybe...I'll think about it--
We have to think about the audience who is interested === SSILA and / LSA or
both?
It would be nice to have back to back sessions -- AND I really think we
still need to have something which invites the inclusion of community
members...
S.


On 1/9/06, Mia Kalish <MiaKalish at learningforpeople.us> wrote:
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>  Are you volunteering to organize a session . . . .??????
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> What if we organized 2 sessions, to support each other. How about thisà
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>             You do a session about how Documentation Should Be Designed
> with an Eye Toward Revitalization
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> . . . and I'll organize a session for all the people working in
> Revitalization about
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>             How Documentation Supports and Impedes Our Efforts.
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> Those of us who do revitalization depend heavily on what is learned and
> collected by the people who are working on the documentation. I know in my
> case, I have a really hard time doing materials for math because the
> collected knowledge is so sparse. There is all kinds of physical evidence
> that STEM was alive and well in Indigenous communities, and we have Nearly
> Nothing in terms of elicitations to support that.
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> I would also like to show others how we are using the web to network our
> revitalization efforts, sharing text, sound, designs, movies and learning
> across wide distances.
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> How about: Documentation, Technology & the Web: Effects on Revitalization
> Efforts
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> Mia
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> *From:* Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Susan Penfield
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2006 6:07 PM
> *To:* ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [ILAT] no news from the LSA...
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> All,
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> Mia is right on -- Our session on Sunday was devoted to much of this. It
> was the last LSA session which was both good and bad -- On the bad side,
> many of the key players who were at LSA and would have attended (Leanne
> Hinton, Keren Rice, Wilhelm Meya --and many others )--expressed regrets in
> having to leave early ).However, many others stayed for that event and
> participated --as well, we had others in attendance who might not have been
> there if other talks had been taking place. Christine Sims spoke eloquently
> about many issues and the evolving history of language education from the
> community perspective; the folks from the Indigenous Language Institute also
> did a great job of sharing their ongoing work -- half of the audience (about
> 50) stayed to watch Brenda McKenna's video from Nambe pueblo (which was
> beautifully done).
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>   I do think that the profile for endangered languages was raised at this
> LSA (beginning with the airing of "the Last Speakers" on Thursday night.)
>  BUT -- I would like to underscore that the story hardly begins or ends at
> LSA -- and that it remains up to all of us to keep the interest going.
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> The next LSA, I'm told, will be in Anaheim next January. That's not so far
> away in either time or distance (for many of us) ...NOW is the time to start
> thinking about how to keep the energy going into next year!! I believe
> abstracts are due in April ...so it might be great to propose a special
> session on Indigenous Languages and technology related to both documentation
> and revitalization (or something like that)...
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> Best,
>
> Susan
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> On 1/9/06, *Mia Kalish* <MiaKalish at learningforpeople.us> wrote:
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> Hi, Phil,
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> I want to assure you that we did lots and lots and lots about endangered
> languages. We talked about them; we talked about how documentation efforts
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> that do not include an eye and support for revitalization are unethical.
> We
> shared our ways and concepts of building revitalization materials. Numbers
> of us made plans to work together to produce publishable research in
> revitalization, especially as we can be using the internet, because not
> everyone who is interested in a particular topic or aspect is in the same
> physical locale either with others who have the same interest, or with
> others who know the solution or approach.
>
> We talked about involving communities, we talked about empowering
> communities. We talked about building teams, and how those teams should be
> and work. We talked about tools for field work, and tools for archiving.
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> It's true that a large portion of both LSA and SSILA were dominated by
> linguistic elements, but there was a recognizable chunk devoted to the
> revitalization issue. Some people, not everyone, but lots of people, are
> realizing that we have to make sure these languages don't end up on museum
> shelves, but back in the community.
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> We even in some places made tiny little headways into issues of language
> extension. The success of the Maori was one of the shining stars that gave
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> people something to think about. My presentation was about how we have no
> language for math and science. I showed my materials, and how difficult it
> was to find words for shapes, and how difficult it was to find people to
> record the sounds of the words we do have for numbers.
>
> If the languages don't move into contemporary use, they WILL die, and
> people
> are starting to talk about that. Interestingly enough, it is the younger
> grad students who seem to find this concept intuitively obvious. I don't
> know why that is, but the people who needed no explanation were people who
> were in their 20's, and who were coping with complex issues in the field,
> sometimes in South America, sometimes locally with diverse populations.
>
> We also talked about how Indigenous Languages need to be taught in
> schools,
> both public and private, and we talked about how Indigenous scholars,
> people
> like Mary Eunice Romero, are writing Indigenous pedagogies. There need to
> be
> more Indigenous scholars writing about Indigenous pedagogies. Sandy Grande
> also writes about Indigenous pedagogies; she calls it Red Pedagogy. She is
> a
> critical race theorist, actually. But the bottom line is that the world
> NEEDS TO KNOW that you don't teach Ndn kids the way you teach white kids.
> Vine and Daniel Wildcat have been saying that for a long time, and so have
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> the Smiths, and Devon Mihesuah.
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> We also need more research that shows that if you give people crappy
> materials, they won't learn very well. We need research that helps others
> understand what the technical term "crappy material" means in the context
> of
> teaching and learning. Did you ever notice how people seldom if ever
> evaluate their materials, but they are very ready to use these same,
> uncritically accepted materials, to make people less than?
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> Anyway, that's the gist of the conference.  This is also the gist of where
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> some of us are going (while others, who shall remain nameless of course,
> are
> going to sojourn among the beautiful trout in the equally beautiful Snake
> River in spectacular nearly-southern Idaho. (But of course we aren't
> saying
> WHO, EXACTLY, is doing that. . . . . lalalalalaaaaaa. Send us pictures,
> okay? I love trout, especially the living, breathing, swimming kind.)
>
> Best,
> Mia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of phil cash cash
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:38 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] no news from the LSA...
>
> it wasn't me that was left out, it was our endangered languages and i
> am sorry too.  glad to hear you all had a good time though.
>
> Philcc
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> On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Mia Kalish wrote:
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> > We were having too much fun going to presentations, giving
> > presentations,
> > recovering from presentations, meeting new friends,  . . . And, in my
> > case.
> > . . . talking about revitalization software and who wants to build it
> > :-)
> >
> > A good time was had by all. Sorry we left you out. . . we apologize.
> > <Hangs
> > head humbly>
> >
> > Mia
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
> > [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of phil cash cash
> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:36 AM
> > To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> > Subject: [ILAT] no news from the LSA...
> >
> > Greetings ILAT,
> >
> > I am a bit surprised that there is virually no news coming out from the
> > LSA conference this past week.  The only news item I saw today was the
> > "word of the year" which seems a bit trivial but particularly news
> > worthy.  Nevertheless, we should continue to draw attention to the
> > plight of the world's endangered languages.
> >
> > Phil Cash Cash
> > UofA, ILAT
> >
>
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> --
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>
> Department of English
> Affiliate faculty: Department of Linguistics
> and the Second Language Acquisition and Teaching Program
> American Indian Language Development Institute
> Phone for messages: (520) 621-1836
>



--
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.

Department of English
Affiliate faculty: Department of Linguistics
and the Second Language Acquisition and Teaching Program
American Indian Language Development Institute
Phone for messages: (520) 621-1836
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