Crossing the Pacific
Earl Otchingwanigan
wiigwaas at MSN.COM
Tue May 6 04:39:43 UTC 2008
Kudos to those who have presented enthusiastic theories including those of artistic license, but to bring you up to speed, these theories are greatly outdated and invalid ~ through a recent press release of a reputable unnamed source, substantial evidence has been uncovered that a certain tribe of American Indians traveled extensively world wide in ancient times both by sea and land and being of cultural bearer status, enabled most of the other humans they met in these strange and different lands to create begin meaningful cultures and societies ~ indeed, recently, a eminent ethnologist found an isolated group in Germany living in teepees and wearing outfits with striking similarity to 19th century American Indians. Cheers, Wayaaseshkang
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From: Daryn McKenny<mailto:daryn at ARWARBUKARL.COM.AU>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Crossing the Pacific
Hi,
I am sure you have all seen this article then, it is an old one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/430944.stm<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/430944.stm>
I have just attended ILATC and I just felt like I was at home, an amazing place with amazing people on amazing country, just like home. I know we are related, Aboriginal people connect with Aboriginal people.
But,we must have had really big trees to make our bark canoes back then though.
Regards
Daryn McKenny
Arwarbukarl Cultural Resource Association Inc.
Read our Indigenous Language BLOG at http://www.arwarbukarl.net.au/blog/<http://www.arwarbukarl.net.au/blog/>
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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of McMillan, Carol
Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 6:11 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: [ILAT] Crossing the Pacific
As a biological anthropologist by training, and being wary of the
European penchant for wanting to have "discovered" everything, and
having read that even geneticists now say that the aboriginal peoples of
Australia had to have had boats at least 40,000 years ago, and having
looked at the people of Rapa Nui (Easter Island) vs. other Pacific
Islanders, and hearing about the Hawaiian sailing canoes that have
recently traveled to Alaska and returned, (and . . . and . . . ) I
believe it's time for us all to admit that indigenous people have been
traveling by sea for many thousands of years, back and forth between
continents. I'm growing a bit weary of all the who-came-first debates.
Perhaps it's all worth it if European and European-decent scholars in
general become less ethnocentric in their world views. (I'm Scottish, I
can say that.) Maybe the debate shouldn't be about who had the
technology and ability to cross large bodies of water, but who was
motivated to do it in order to rape/pillage/plunder vs. those who went
to trade and/or visit with others. That focus might put Columbus and
others into categories more appropriate to their conduct.
Sorry, I just had to weigh in here.
Carol McMillan
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