JoatSimeon at JoatSimeon at
Mon Feb 22 21:43:15 UTC 1999

In a message dated 2/22/99 5:38:51 AM Mountain Standard Time, X99Lynx at

>This particular statement really bothers me. I also saw the "intervening
agriculture" >stage as a requirement for pastoral nomadism repeated again and
again in >Renfrew's Archaeology and Language where it was used to eliminate
all kinds of >possibilities regarding the steppes.

-- well, it doesn't, really.  The archaeological evidence is that the
mesolithic inhabitants of the forest-steppe and river-valley environments of
the central Ukraine and points east picked up the whole Neolithic package in
the fifth millenium BC, then domesticated the horse.

Over the next couple of millenia, the cultures in that area became more and
more pastoral, but in the Neolithic and Bronze Age periods they were still
mixed -- pastoralists who also practiced some agriculture in favorable areas.

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