Principled Comparative Method - a new tool
Jon Patrick
jonpat at staff.cs.usyd.edu.au
Wed Sep 15 10:42:02 UTC 1999
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:35:51 +0100 (BST)
From: Larry Trask <larryt at cogs.susx.ac.uk>
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Jon Patrick wrote:
> Another perspective on this question is my own view that linguists
> don't know their data as well as they think they do. The jump to
> generalisations is to quick for my liking. My position was
> vindicated in the chinese data where we found far more items than
> the linguist expected that were exceptional by his criteria (Another
> experience that tells me not to accept the rigid Trask criteria for
> defining the vocabulary suitable for the study of early basque).
Jon, this is not a fair or reasonable characterization of my position.
I do not wish to misrepresent your position - it would only serve to create
misunderstanding. I am making a general comment based on my experience and it
is an expression of how I view ANY linguistic materials I now approach. It
just so happens that some of that material you are connected to, e.g. the
Mitxelena reconstruction of Basque phonolgy and your own additions to it.
First, I am not jumping to any generalizations at all. I am merely
invoking reasonable criteria to try to identify the Basque words with
the *strongest* claims to native and ancient status in the language.
Only by examining the resulting list can I hope to reach any
generalizations at all.
answered in previous mail item
Of course there will be a few exceptional forms in the list (I've
already mentioned a couple), but I can't *tell* that they're exceptional
until I first have a reasonable list on which to base some
generalizations.
Second, I am not attempting to "define the vocabulary suitable for the
study of early Basque", at least not with my initial list. Rather, I am
merely hoping to identify the phonological characteristics of native and
ancient words -- in particular, their morpheme-structure constraints --
in order *then* to see if the results yield us a tool for identifying
the words which may have reasonable claims to ancient status.
Here we both have a common task - perhaps your in-depth knowledge and my
computing expertise could be brought together to do something really creative
on the topic
cheers
Jon
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