the Wheel and Dating PIE
JoatSimeon at aol.com
JoatSimeon at aol.com
Thu Jan 27 09:38:22 UTC 2000
>X99Lynx at aol.com writes:
>Even I know that if "the language has changed" and is no longer PIE, the
>SPECIFIC sound changes in *kwelo, etc., may not have happened until later.
>Those changes may NOT be the ones that defined "PIE (linguistic) breakup."
-- those changes were not confined to those words, of course.
Eg., the PIE *k ==> Germanic 'h' transition is characteristic. Hence *kmtom
(100) ==> hundrad (100), or many other transitions of this kind.
>What ARE the SPECIFIC SOUND changes identified in early 'wheel' words and
>what suggests that they are even exceptionally early? I would value
anything you >might offer regarding this.
-- PIE *kwekwlom (pl. kwekwleha) -- wheel
>From which:
Old English: hweogol (note characteristic Germanic *k ==> h)
Sanskrit: cakra
Greek: kuklo
Tocharian: kukal ('wagon')
etc.
PIE *hwergh -- wheel
Hittite: hurki
Tocharian: yerkwanto
PIE *dhroghos -- wheel
Old Irish: droch
Armenian: durgn
Greek: (I forget, but something similar)
PIE *rotho -- wheel
Old Irish: roth
Latin: rota
OHG: rad
Lith. ratas
Albanian: rreth
Avestan: ratha (chariot)
Sanskrit: ratha (chariot)
Plus, of course, PIE *ueghnos, 'wagon', *uoghos, 'wagon' and the related
*ueghitlom, 'vehicle', which produce:
Old Irish: fen
Welsh: gwain
Tocharian wkam
Mycenaean: wokas (chariot, from a related form *uoghos)
OHG: wagan
Latin: vehiculum
Sanskrit vahitram
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