Uniformitarianism and the Arrowwood
JoatSimeon at aol.com
JoatSimeon at aol.com
Mon Jun 25 06:45:08 UTC 2001
In a message dated 6/25/01 12:02:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
X99Lynx at aol.com writes:
> Actually, I'd rather put the onus on you to justify the identification of
> *ebur- or *eiw- with any particular modern tree classification. I do not
> doubt the phonology in the reconstructions. I think that anyone who looks
> closely will find that the meanings are anywhere as stable as you contend.
-- *eiuos produces a word meaning "yew" in Celtic, Germanic, Baltic, and
probably Hittite. In Slavic, it's shifted to "willow".
The rules generally used for historical linguistics would accord a high
probability of this being the PIE meaning.
Again, if you want to argue in the field of historical linguistics, you have
to accept the rules in general use.
> What YOU must prove is that there's no chance that the "yew" word would
> have changed if *PIE had had a yew word.
-- that is not so. As mentioned above, the general rule is that three
separate language families with the same meaning render a PIE meaning highly
probable. Particularly if one or more is widely separated from the others.
> evidence says that the word would have changed - possibly many times in
> 2000+years.
-- odd that you haven't produced one scrap of it, then.
Semantic shifts in _other_ words have no relevance to the original meaning of
_this_ word.
Incidentally, yew wood was used for bows throughout northern Eurasia from
Mesolithic times on. The Alpine "iceman" had a yew bow.
The evidence indicates that PIE had _two_ words for "yew", one (the older)
with the general sense of "evergreen tree with reddish heartwood and
berries", and the other (possibly a late dialectical word of the PIE center
and east) meaning roughly "bow-wood".
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