Fwd: RE: Joden

[Annette Karmiloff-Smith]

>>indeed, so in Dutch, "Yoden," I presume.  And in Spanis,h "zoden"
>>or "hoden"I presume, which is why I am hesitating telling them
>>because they are pronouncing it Joden as in just....
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>>  Don't forget that <joden> would be pronounced radically differently as
>>standard orthography in various languages.
>>
>>Rex
>>
>>-------------------
>>>  sorry, no it didn't.  I should have explained. It is the first name
>>>  given to a newborn by parents who know nothing of its meanings and
>>>  thought they had invented a nice-sounding name.  When I realised the
>>
>>>  Dutch meaning I wondered what meaning it might have in other
>>>  languages and thought what better source of info than the
>>>  psycholinguistics list.  Thanks to all who replied.  If there are
>>>  psychotherapists out there, should I tell the parents or not?
>>>  Annette
>>>
>>>  At 3:53 pm -0500 8/9/02, rsprouse wrote:
>>>  >OK, Annette,
>>>  >
>>>  >the whole list is now waiting to find out whether this word showed
>>up
>>>  >in a corpus of child Dutch or child Spanish.
>>>  >
>>>  >Rex Sprouse
>>>  >
>>>  >-------------------
>>>  >>  The word "joden" has different  meanings in Spanish. It depends
>>on
>>>  >the
>>>  >>  country or variety of Spanish.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  In Spain it's equivalent to the word "fuck" in English, but in
>>>  >Argentina,
>>>  >>  Venezuela and Peru, for example, it's equivalent to the word
>>>  >"bother" or
>>>  >>  "tease" but with a very strong "charge".
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  Both meanings are argot.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  Ximena Rios
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >>  From: Professor Annette Karmiloff-Smith
>>>  ><a.karmiloff-smith at ich.ucl.ac.uk>
>>>  >>  To: <info-childes at mail.talkbank.org>
>>>  >>  Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:36 PM
>>>  >>  Subject: Joden
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  > OK, I've been told what it means in Spanish.
>>>  >>  > Does the word have meaning in other languages?
>>>  >>  > thanks
>>>  >>  > annette
>>>  >>  > --
>>>  >>  >
>>________________________________________________________________
>>>  >>  > Professor A.Karmiloff-Smith,
>>>  >>  > Head, Neurocognitive Development Unit,
>>>  >>  > Institute of Child Health,
>>>  >>  > 30 Guilford Street,
>>>  >>  > London WC1N 1EH, U.K.
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>>>  >>  >
>>________________________________________________________________
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >Rex A. Sprouse
>>>  >
>>>  >Associate Professor of Germanic Studies, Adjunct Associate
>>Professor
>>>  >of Linguistics, Adjunct Associate  Professor of TESOL and Applied
>>>  >Linguistics
>>>  >
>>>  >German Language Proficiency Certification Officer
>>>  >Graduate German Reading Proficiency Advisor
>>>  >
>>>  >Member of Board of Directors, Cymdeithas Madog (Welsh Studies
>>>  >Institute in North America)
>>>  >
>>>  >Department of Germanic Studies, Indiana University, Ballantine Hall
>>>  >644, 1020 E. Kirkwood Avenue, Bloomington, IN 47405  USA
>>>  >
>>>  >812-855-3248 office; 812-855-8927 FAX; rsprouse at indiana.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Rex A. Sprouse
>>
>>Associate Professor of Germanic Studies, Adjunct Associate Professor
>>of Linguistics, Adjunct Associate  Professor of TESOL and Applied
>>Linguistics
>>
>>German Language Proficiency Certification Officer
>>Graduate German Reading Proficiency Advisor
>>
>>Member of Board of Directors, Cymdeithas Madog (Welsh Studies
>>Institute in North America)
>>
>>Department of Germanic Studies, Indiana University, Ballantine Hall
>>644, 1020 E. Kirkwood Avenue, Bloomington, IN 47405  USA
>>
>>812-855-3248 office; 812-855-8927 FAX; rsprouse at indiana.edu