IPA fonts

[Carolyn Chaney]

Ah, I see.  So we simply have to download Keyman and the font, and 
then...?  Does Keyman know how to connect strokes with symbols and 
provide a chart?

Carolyn

On Jan 31, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Brian wrote:

>
> Dear Carolyn,
>     There is no difference between what is necessary for CLAN and what
> is necessary for a basic IPA font.  Simply having Arial Unicode is not
> enough.  You also have to have a method of telling the keyboard which
> of the more than 64,000 characters in Unicode should be bound to which
> strokes of which keys.  That is where Keyman comes in.  Think of it as
> a new language with non-Roman characters, like Hebrew or Russian.  If
> you want to type Russian on an English keyboard in Windows, you have
> to not only have a font with Russian characters, but also a way of
> telling Windows how to remap the keyboard.
>
>    For IPA, the choice of a particular Unicode font is not too
> crucial.   Doulos, Charis, and Arial all cover IPA.  Arial also covers
> Chinese, Japanese, and do on, but if all you care about is English and
> IPA, then the SIL fonts are fine.  Hopefully you do not have old data,
> so you could ignore the discussion of converting from SILIPA93.
>
> On Mac, you also have to have a font and a keyboard, but the
> installations are easier and IPAKeys comes with lovely easy
> documentation, so it is hard to get lost.
>
> --Brian
>
> On Jan 31, 9:56 pm, Carolyn Chaney <ccha... at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>> It certainly does sound way more complicated that my Mac font. I am
>> having trouble getting what is necessary for CLAN and what is 
>> necessary
>> for a basic IPA font.
>>
>> So if the student has Ariel Uicode, is that enough (plus Charis Sil)?
>> Or is Keyman also needed?
>>
>> The SIL homepage says:  Please note that the  Doulos SIL font and
>> Charis SIL font fonts provide Unicode IPA support.  However, you must
>> convert existing data using the "SIL IPA93 Fonts" to Unicode before
>> using the Doulos SIL or Charis SIL font (see SIL IPA93 Data
>> Conversion).
>>
>> If that is the case, then is Keyman needed?  Or separate unicode?
>>
>> Sorry to be stupid, but if I can't get it, I am unlikely to get my
>> students on board.
>>
>> CArolyn
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Brian MacWhinney wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Carolyn,
>>>    I recommend that you take a look at the material regarding this on
>>> the CHILDES website at http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/tools/uniwin.html.
>>>     You can also get to this info from the homepage using the link
>>> called "Unicode and IPA for Windows?
>>> It is not enough to just get a font, you need to also install a
>>> Keyboard mapping system like Keyman.
>>> Good luck with this -- it is not easy.
>>
>>> --Brian MacWhinney
>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2008, at 3:57 AM, Carolyn Chaney wrote:
>>
>>>>  I am teaching phonetics once again, and I'd like a recommendation
>>>> for a phonetics font that works on the PC with Vista.  Would Charis
>>>> at SIL
>>>> be a good one to recommend to my PC using students?
>>
>>>> Thanks for your help....I am PC illiterate and only speak Mac
>>>> fluently.
>>
>>>> Carolyn Chaney
>>>> ccha... at sfsu.edu
>>
>>>>> "Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious
>>>>> life?"
>>>>>   --Mary Oliver
> >


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