a question about multilingual babies

Mon May 9 09:04:35 UTC 2011

Dear Christophe,
Thank you so much for your reply. As you stated "how environment can trigger
autism but
environment seems not to be the origin of this "impairment" seems not but no
research proves this. Some say *Genetics*, some say *Genetics + environment,
some other says Vaccine, Some say environment*. I have recently read an
article that state *all of us can be placed on this spectrum one way or
another* but with low percentage. You know there is no agreement yet on
whether Science is Fact or Hypothesis.

As researchers, we cannot give advice to risk kids' health even if we have
enough evidence that there are many bilingual kids that are healthy.

What is agreed here is that early bilingualism would lead to *language delay
* (either expressive or comprehension) and this could be dangerous for a
possible autistic child. and we will not learn some autistic symptoms until
*ages of two or even five and even ten*.

In science we are working with *probability*. No one can here claim that all
ideas stated early in this list are true for 100% and when it *comes to
health* (mentally and cognitively) we are even cautious with even minimum
percents (saying 10 % percent).
Of course, by saying these I mean to be of help not ignoring some probable
facts.

Best regards,
Parisa
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Christophe dos Santos <
christophe.h.dos.santos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Parisa,
>
> I have read a lot of papers recently that seems to show that Autism is
> strongly based on genetic origin (not only one gene but a pool of
> genetic alterations can cause autism).
> It is not clear however ".
>
> A general article about autism (but a simple search will give you a
> lot more information about genetic issues linked with autism) :
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/autism-and-genetics-a-breakthrough-that-sheds-light-on-a-medical-mystery-1996221.html
>
> Best,
>
> Christophe dos Santos
> Université François Rabelais, Tours
>
> 2011/5/9 parisa Daftarifard <pdaftaryfard at gmail.com>:
>  > Dear Aliyah,
> >
> > Thank you for your reply and comment. What I am cautious about is not
> being
> > bilingual (I speak two languages and understand three languages) but is
> > about early bilingualism. Many early bilingualism (for example the one
> Edith
> > explained) one language is dominant and functional.
> >
> > I think we need research to see if multilingual interaction from zero
> (one
> > month forward) would exist very much or not. Usually one language is
> > functional not two languages. This is the case we have in Iran. Turkish
> or
> > Armenia all are bilingual but kids from zero are mostly (if I say not all
> of
> > them because I have no research at hand), through my individual
> questioning
> > parents, are interacted in one language first and the second language is
> not
> > dominant or interactional in early stages.
> >
> > from educational perspective, bilingualism brings many chances but when
> we
> > approach the issue from the clinical perspective we need to be very
> cautious
> > about claims and result of research.
> >
> > Many cognitive problems like autism may not show itself till age two.
> If we
> > expose our kid when we are not even aware of his health to more than one
> > language, our kids are at risk. Unless you have an evidence of autistic
> > bilingual who benefit multiple exposures.
> >
> > Moreover, do you think who is more healthy: the kid who start speaking at
> > the age two or the one who starts at the age of four or five. expressive
> > language is very important to mental health. I have seen those kids with
> > language delay that are angry when they cannot express themselves some
> times
> > they show aggressive behavior.
> >
> > Natural exposure is not what we argue about here. I am talking about
> > purposefully confusing kid with many functionally used language while we
> are
> > not sure that this kid is completely OK.
> >
> > Best,
> > Parisa Daftarifard
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Aliyah MORGENSTERN
> > <aliyah.morgenstern at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Parisa, dear Tamar and Yves,
> >> 3/4th of the world is at least bilingual, if not multilingual and some
> of
> >> us have been exposed to 2 , 3, 4 languages from birth. Don't be so quick
> in
> >> saying it provokes more language delay than being monolingual. And
> remember
> >> most monolinguals are native English speakers (and native French
> speakers)
> >> and write a lot of papers...
> >> So lets take our time before we stress parents about what to do with
> their
> >> children when they are lucky enough to live in a multicultural society.
> >> I'm sure more specialists of multilingualism will answer. PLEASE take
> your
> >> time and don't follow ONE advice.
> >> Best,
> >> Aliyah from Paris
> >> Le 9 mai 2011 à 05:11, parisa Daftarifard a écrit :
> >>
> >> Language delay is much more dangerous than loosing time for true
> >> bilingualism. There are many risk factors like being autistic,
> developmental
> >> delay and global delay in terms of cognition. I think recent psychology
> >> suggests for learning one language first and then being exposed to other
> >> languages. I can send you some books off list.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Parisa
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:55 AM, beachjade <beachjade at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Tamar and Yves,
> >>> There is a recent paper by Janet Werker that may be relevant to your
> >>> second question about how early should you expose your child to his
> many
> >>> languages.  In contrast to an earlier response to your post, my reading
> of
> >>> the literature suggests that bilingualism/multilingualism in an of
> itself is
> >>> not a risk factor in development.  This is echoed by
> >>> http://www.lsadc.org/info/pdf_files/Bilingual.pdf
> >>> http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/pspi/pspi_10_3.pdf
> >>> http://www.psychologicalscience.org/media/releases/2010/werker.cfm
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Tamar & Yves <tamarmr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>> Our 10 months old son is exposed to 3 languages at home ( each one of
> >>>> us is speaking to him his mother- tongue, and we speak English between
> >>>> us) and to a 4th one outside.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Soon he will be starting Nursery, and we were wondering what language
> >>>> it should be in. Is it better to expose him simultaneously to all 4
> >>>> languages or should we do it gradually over the first few years of his
> >>>> life (It's possible to sign him up to a nursery in my husnband's
> >>>> mother tongue (2)/ english (3)/ bi lingual (enviroment+English)(4))
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We don't want language acquisition to be too much of a burden on him,
> >>>> and not sure how many languages he can learn at once.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We are aware of the large number of factors affecting the answer, but
> >>>> does anyone know or refer us to research done on the specific issues
> >>>> of (i) number of languages babies can learn and its implication on
> >>>> their emotional state; and (ii) Is it better to expose a baby to those
> >>>> languages simultaneously or gradually over the first few years of his
> >>>> life.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Tamar & Yves
> >>>>
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Parisa Daftarifard
Phd Student of TEFL
Islamic Azad University of Science and Research

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