using words or trials as subjects

[Susan Gelman]

I agree with Erika.  Here's the citation:

Clark, H. H. (1973). The language-as-fixed-effect fallacy: A critique of
language statistics in psychological research. *Journal of Verbal Learning
and Verbal Behavior, 12*, 335-359.

-Susan Gelman

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Erika Hoff <erikachoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> You might be talking about F prime--as opposed to the typical F. I think
> the argument is that one should do both because your words are sampled from
> the population of words just as your subjects are sampled from the
> population of people. I believe--and this is a long term memory experiment
> for me--the original reference is Herb Clark 1973.
>
> See what others have to say.
>
> Erika Hoff
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Margaret Friend <
> mfriend at sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am looking for a paper and I'm not sure where to begin.  We have a
>> study with a small sample but many, many trials.  We would like to organize
>> our data by trial (rather than subject) as this gives us much greater power
>> and also allows us to ask about relations within the data on a trial by
>> trial basis.  I seem to recall an older paper on doing something like this:
>>  transposing data to treat words as subjects.
>>
>> Does anyone remember this paper and, if so, would you please send me the
>> citation?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Maggie
>>
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