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[Isa Barriere]

Dear Virginia, Ana and Ginny,
1. Does anyone know here I can find demographic information (including
gender. ethnic etc break down) for a) undergraduate and graduate students
in Linguistics programs an b) faculty Linguistics in the US?

2.  A comment related to Tom's
Back in late 90's when I joined a reading group on language acquisition in
London, it was interesting to note the male female divide: all the males'
research focused on computational models of lg acquisition while all the
females were conducting studies that involved data collection on real
children but I feel (maybe wrongly) that this trend may be changing and of
course some people do both ...

Cheers,
Isabelle


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Tom Roeper <roeper at linguist.umass.edu>wrote:

> Dear Ana and Ginny--
>
> There is another important dimension to all of this.  It is a concern of
> mine that the relevance
> of language acquistion to linguistic theory be fully appeciated and
> grasped.  How often does
> one read in a theoretical paper that a phenomenon is found in language
> family X, Y, Z and
> in child grammar?  Extremely rarely, but in many respects spontaneous
> acquisition behavior
> for instance copying (can I can come) should be seen as much more
> persuasive than very
> indirect theoretical arguments for say, copying.  Yet in general, simple
> confirmation of
> ideas through acquisition references is sorely lacking.
>     This is also a reflection of the fact that language acquisition has a
> large number of women
> in it I suspect, and gender bias is playing a role.   This is not entirely
> without overt evidence---
> but I remember a male colleague saying---many many years ago--"language
> acquisition is
> for women".  By the way, I also heard, within linguistic theory itself
> remarks like "morphology
> is for women", but not recently.
>
> Tom Roeper
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Virginia Valian <vvvstudents at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Anna,
>>
>> I'd like to start by reiterating that I think this year's speakers will
>> be excellent!  I look forward to hearing them on 31 October.
>>
>> I appreciate seeing the whole list of SLD symposium speakers.  It's good
>> to see that the history has a better proportion of women overall than this
>> year alone would suggest.  Note, though, that language acquisition is a
>> primarily female field.  If all other things are equal - and they may not
>> be - we would expect to see primarily female speakers over the long haul.
>>  That is, in the case of language acquisition, we don't expect 50-50 but
>> many more women, just as, in fields that are male-dominated, we don't
>> expect 50-50, but many more men.
>>
>> Who receives public attention affects not only the particular women whose
>> voices aren't heard, but all students and researchers in the field.
>> People's aspirations, interests, and expectations are affected by who they
>> see in prestigious positions.
>>
>> As the links I provided earlier spell out in more detail - and see my
>> gender tutorial 4, www.hunter.cuny.edu/gendertutorial/slides/gt04.htm -
>> the social-cognitive analysis that I provide shows why everyone - male and
>> female alike, and that includes me - is likely to find men's names to be
>> more cognitively available than women's.  We all have gender schemas and we
>> all use cognitive heuristics.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> VVV
>>
>> Virginia Valian
>>
>>
>>
>>
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