Idiom comprehension in child language

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Mon Jun 23 07:24:49 UTC 2014 

Hi all,

Is there a software widely used in psycholinguistic research to draw 
pictures for sentence-picture matching tasks? Besides, I need another 
software compatible with touch-screen tablet for a comprehension task, and 
it is supposed to record reaction time and accuracy of the answers.

Peace,
Huseyin

On Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, Nelson, Keith wrote:
>
> Hi all.   I m attaching a JCL paper just out from our lab that reviews lit 
> and presents an intervention study on idiom comprehension.   Cheers,  Keith 
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Tom Roeper <roe... at linguist.umass.edu 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks--
>>
>> just to mention a couple of things--an example I just heard:
>>      "I know a shortcut"
>>      "well, I know a shorter cut"
>> and cases like "you're a slowpoke, but I'm a fastpoke".
>>
>> I wrote a paper on idioms with Zvi Penner that appears
>> in the volume for Jüregen Weisenborn by Mouton--it
>> relates to complex sentences.
>>
>>   Work by Ellen Winner on Metaphor seems pertinent
>> to children's comprehension of them.  A child with
>> a stomache who said"
>>        "there's a fireengine in my stomach"
>> or a child with a stuffed nose who said:
>>         "there's paint in my nose".
>>
>> Deviations from compositionality can still be logically
>> motivated.
>>
>> Tom Roeper
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Mehmet ÖZCAN <mehoz... at gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Hüseyin,
>>>
>>> (I answer all of the questions you posed me personally here thinking 
>>> that other colleagues might want to comment on them as well)
>>>
>>> ·         (Concerning your question about the location of data 
>>> collection) The location you are going to collect the data depends 
>>> totally on the location of the study carried out by Gokmen and her student 
>>> (as you mentioned) to find out the words determined as “prototype words”; 
>>> watermelon which is found to be 8th item on the list in Ankara may be 
>>> the first or third in Urfa or Adana; or orange the first in Mediterranean 
>>> Region, if you are going to construct your  sentences depending on their 
>>> list. In a nutshell, prototypicality is idiosyncratic and a common sense of 
>>> prototypicality occurs when the personal senses of prototypicalities 
>>> overlap to the sufficient extent. 
>>>
>>> ·         One problem with the hypothesis: As far as I understood, you 
>>> assume that idiomatic expressions are processed within the framework of 
>>> compositionality theory: the meaning of a phrase or a larger linguistic 
>>> unit can be grasped by knowing the meaning/function of each element the 
>>> whole unit contains. This may be the case in most cases, especially when it 
>>> comes to accessing the literal meaning. As you know, Compositionality 
>>> Theory has been criticized for not being able to explain the processing of 
>>> pragmatics in the expressions. Thus, you may revise your assumptions.
>>>
>>> ·         Another thing to concentrate on may be the prototypicality of 
>>> the idiomatic expression (among other idiomatic expressions) itself rather 
>>> than the expressions’ containing prototypical elements. You know, *some 
>>> birds are birder than other birds*. Some idiomatic expressions may have 
>>> some prototypical features structurally or regarding other qualities.
>>>
>>> ·         Integrating infant directed speech to this study would be too 
>>> much to my understanding. You will have to carry out longitudinal 
>>> observations to measure the exposition of a child to idiomatic expressions 
>>> or the words in the list determined by the previous studies. 
>>>
>>> I am looking forward to hearing about the findings of your demanding 
>>> study. Good luck in all ways.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:56:54 AM UTC+3, huy... at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I would like to express my excitement about posting my 
>>>> first question in this group (Of course, after reading the older posts).
>>>>
>>>> I have been reading about Prototype Theory of Eleanor Rosch, which is 
>>>> the point of departure for my M.A thesis, within the frame of child 
>>>> language development. Then I suddenly found myself trying to design steps 
>>>> for (an) experiment(s) in idiom comprehension. I am partly aware of the 
>>>> literature in figurative language processing (thanks to the comprehensive 
>>>> chapter by Gibbs and Colston in http://www.sciencedirect.com/
>>>> science/book/9780123693747). So my questions are as follows:
>>>>
>>>>    - What is the direction of research in idiom comprehension in child 
>>>>    language?
>>>>    - Could you suggest me some seminal works in idiom comprehension, 
>>>>    or more generally figurative language? 
>>>>    - Is there anyone to help me revise my experimental design?
>>>>    - What kind of an effect could prototypicality of concepts in 
>>>>    idioms have on children's comprehension? (Feel free to share your criticism 
>>>>    or advice, if you prefer to look at this research question from another 
>>>>    perspective.) 
>>>>    - A third research field having just popped into my mind is child 
>>>>    directed speech. In what way can I integrate it into my research?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Huseyin
>>>>
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>> UMass South College
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