[Lexicog] one practical question re. weak verbs

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk at qaya.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Lexicog] one practical question re. weak verbs


> On 13/01/2004 06:54, David Gray wrote:
>
> > Dear Peter (and others),
> >
> > If you are working in a language with weak verbs, would it be better
> > to have them as head words e.g.
> >
> > \lx jang etmek
> > \ps v.
> > \de to telephone, ring
> >
> > or:
> >
> > \lx jang
> > \ps n.
> > \de bell
> > \se jang etmek
> > \de to telephone, ring
> >
> > where the sfms are:
> > lx lexeme
> > ps part of speech
> > de defn in English
> > se sub entry
> > ?
> >
> > The traditonal approach in Central Asia and similar areas seams to be
> > the latter, but this is not very pragmatic, especially where the
> > 'noun' is never used in isolation e.g. 'kabul' is always used in
> > 'kabul etmek' (to receive, welcome) or 'kabulhana' (reception).
> >
>
> My own preference would be for the latter. If you do the former, you are
> likely to need two top level entries e.g. it seems that 'jang' is used
> on its own as well as in the compound. Even cases like 'kabul' may not
> be as straightforward as they seem: very likely they were used on their
> own in an earlier stage of the language and may appear as such in
> classical texts.
>
> But I would be interested to hear other views.
>
> --
> Peter Kirk
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> peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
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