[Lexicog] preparing Shoebox lexicons for publication/ export
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Subject: RE: [Lexicog] preparing Shoebox lexicons for publication/ export
> Question 1 below. Yes. One can order the fields within the object that
> owns them in the LinguaLinks lexical database for all the different views.
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> Verna Stutzman
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> "Ron Moe" <ron_moe at sil.org>
> 01/13/2004 06:26 PM
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> Concerning fixing ordering problems in Shoebox-- I use Consistent Changes
> (CC) tables to automate the reordering of fields. However there are limits
> to what I can do with them. Essentially I move one field next to (before
> or
> after) another field. This only works if the second field is present. It
> also wouldn't work with multiple fields within the sense cycle, but I
> might
> be able to write a table to do it. The CC tables are included in the DDP
> version 2 release.
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> I can think of three possible methods to ensure consistency. (1) Use a
> program like LinguaLinks which enforces field order. This has the drawback
> of preventing the flexibility needed to handle special problems and needs.
> Does anyone know if LinguaLinks allows any flexibility in field order? (2)
> Use the template feature in Shoebox to automatically enter blank fields
> into
> the database when you add a new entry. This has the drawback of cluttering
> the entry with empty and unnecessary fields. (3) Use an automated routine
> to
> add a field to each entry in the database. This is the solution I am using
> in the DDP. It adds the field consistently to every record in the correct
> place. You can then use automated routines to populate the field. If it is
> not possible to automate the process, you can at least populate the field
> in
> a single pass through the database. This increases consistency of the
> field
> contents and is more efficient than filling out all the fields one entry
> at
> a time. Of course this third solution presupposes that you have collected
> the words already. But with the DDP we collect all the words first anyway,
> so no problem.
>
> I've also exported databases into WORD in order to use its spell checker.
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> Ron Moe
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> From: mcswell2001 [mailto:maxwell at ldc.upenn.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:46 PM
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> Subject: [Lexicog] preparing Shoebox lexicons for publication/ export
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> I'm a former SIL member, now working at the Linguistic Data
> Consortium at the University of Pennsylvania. Over the years, I've
> preferred to work on grammars--but dictionaries keep winding up on my
> desk instead.
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> There are two projects here at LDC using Shoebox to compile lexicons,
> and as a consultant on these projects I was again reminded of how
> inconsistent users can be. Some of the inconsistencies could have
> been cleared up by the use of features in Shoebox (v5) such as range
> sets. But there are other sorts of problems that Shoebox (and so far
> as I know, Toolbox) doesn't help with. One of these is spell
> correction; so I wrote an import-to-Word macro which, given the
> correspondence between fields and language, automatically assigns a
> language to each region of text, so that Word's spelling correctors
> can be applied. (I hasten to add that as soon as one has done the
> spelling correction, the file is brought back into Shoebox. No
> dictionary compilation inside Word!)
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> Anther issue I'm aware of is the ordering of fields. While Shoebox
> allows you to define a correct ordering, it does not enforce it, and
> one can introduce errors in the order. These are perhaps best found
> by exporting to XML, and running an XML validating parser (in
> conjunction with a DTD) over the exported file. There remain issues
> of how to fix the errors (in Shoebox vs. in the XML file).
>
> Another question is how to do cross-language comparison of lexicons,
> given that the fields different lexicographers use may not
> correspond. If everyone used MDF, that wouldn't be a problem, but
> that's sort of like saying that if everyone used English, there
> wouldn't be any problems. (There was some discussion of this in the
> EMELD '02 workshop.)
>
> I'm thinking of doing a paper for the upcoming LREC workshop on
> minority language documentation, on the topic of how to prepare
> Shoebox lexicons for publication or export, with emphasis on fixing
> problems with (in)consistency. (Before publishing, one might also
> want to look at coverage, agreement between the grammatical
> categories in the lexicon and those in published grammars for the
> language, etc., but this is outside of what I want to cover, as are
> basics of using MDF.) I am aware of work by Ken Zook (of SIL) on
> importing earlier Shoebox lexicons into LinguaLinks, the web pages
> for the KirrKirr project on importing into that tool, and the
> addition of the 'verify interlinear' feature to Toolbox. Beyond
> this, I haven't seen much.
>
> Has anyone seen other sorts of problems for which additional tools or
> checks are needed in order to ensure consistency (or more generally,
> quality) in Shoebox lexicons? I'll be happy to cite you, should this
> idea turn into a real (and accepted) paper.
>
> Mike Maxwell
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