[Lexicog] one practical question re. weak verbs

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From: <Neal_Brinneman at sil.org>
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Lexicog] one practical question re. weak verbs


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> Dear David,
> If you want the sort order to work properly, you need to go to
> Project/Languages choose your language and then on the sort tab, add your
> letters in the proper order with each line being the primary order and the
> letters on the line are the secondary sort order.
> For how to interlinerize, Toolbox works just like Shoebox. Go to the
> Program Files/Shoebox/Doc and open ShTUG.pdf and work through the tutorial
> with the given examples. It tells how to set up your interlinearization.
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> also offer courses in doing this at JAARS in Waxhaw NC.
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one practical question re. weak verbs
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> Dear Martin,
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> I'm interested in what you wrote about Toolbox. I've just converted a
> sample of our Latin Central European encoding lang data to Unicode, but
> can't get the sort-order working in Toolbox. It should go:
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> a b ç (ch) d e ä f g h i j ž k l m n ò (ng) etc. but the ç and ö come out
> at the end. Have you had any similar problems? Which version are you
using?
> Where can I learn more about interlinearising using Toolbox?
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> David
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> martin_hosken at sil.org wrote:
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>  Dear All,
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>  <David>
>  If you are working in a language with weak verbs, would it be better to
>  have them as head words e.g.
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>  \lx jang etmek
>  \ps v.
>  \de to telephone, ring
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>  \lx jang
>  \ps n.
>  \de bell
>  \se jang etmek
>  \de to telephone, ring
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>  where the sfms are:
>  lx lexeme
>  ps part of speech
>  de defn in English
>  se sub entry
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>  Or even more radically:
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>  \lx jang
>  \ps n.
>  \de bell
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>  \lx jang etmek
>  \ps v.
>  \de to telephone, ring
>  \sh jang
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>  where \sh means sub-head to indicate which entry this entry is a
sub-entry
>  of. The advantage then is that you get phrase interlinearising in Toolbox
>  and the typesetting software can assemble the head/sub-entry structure to
>  give the printed dictionary that people want and can be so helpful. But
>  then that comes from someone who is used to having to write all their
>  typesetting software from scratch!
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>  >The traditonal approach in Central Asia and similar areas seams to be
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>  latter, but this is not very pragmatic, especially where the 'noun' is
>  never used in isolation e.g. 'kabul' is always used in 'kabul etmek' (to
>  receive, welcome) or 'kabulhana' (reception).
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>  Oh the joys of not having inter-word spaces (says the Southeast Asian) :)
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>  GB,
>  Martin
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