[Lexicog] Equivalents for German "Heimat"

[Kenneth C. Hill]

The connection between "heim-" of "Heimat" and English "home" seemed
obvious from the start of this discussion, but does anyone know about the
"-at" element? Is this element, "-oti" in Old High German, according to
Fritz's citation, found in other vocabulary? Is it the remnant of an old
compounded element? Does it correspond to anything in English or other
Germanic languages?

This brings up another question: Does anyone know of a useful etymological
dictionary of German for people who don't read German very well? In fact,
I'd like to see the list address the general question of etymological
dictionaries and of etymologies in dictionaries.

--Ken

--- Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote:

... German Heimat.The origin of the German word
> is according to Grimm's dictionary:
> Heimat; Old High German. heimoti; Middle High German. heimôte, heimote,
> heimôt, heimuôt
> The Staatslexikon (Herder-Verlag; Sp. 1235) points to the common
> germanic root heim
> (see related engl. home); word stem: heimüete, heimot
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> Fritz Goerling
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>   Hello dear LEXICOGRAPHERS:
>   The German word Heimat reminds me of the word Kheimat or Khema "tent".
> For a desert dweller, this means his home, homeland, beloved home...
> etc.
>   A more nationalistic word used nowadays is watan. ( t , here, is an
> emphatic consonant).
>   A more sentimenal word is: balad.
>   Regards
>   Muhammadmh2002 at yahoo.com
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>   apa mapa <apamag at yahoo.com> wrote:
>     I have lived in Thailand. My language for "hometown" is
> "ºéÒ¹à¡Ô´"(ba:n-kert) or "ºéÒ¹à¡Ô´àÁ×ͧ¹Í¹" (ba:n-kert-muang-no:n). If
> you
> would like to say "home", you have to say "ºéÒ¹" (ba:n)
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>     Regards,
>     Phornpimon
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>     Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote:
>       I am looking for equivalents in other languages for German
>       "Heimat" in its sentimental sense.  "Heimat" in German can
>       mean one's home country, one's "fatherland, homeland"
>       (speakers of other languages refer to their "motherland").
>       In its sentimental sense one can paraphrase the concept as
>       a safe haven, a familiar, comfortable, tranquil place,
>       a place where one feels loved."
>       English "home" comes the closest to German "Heimat" in
>       expressions like "home is where the heart hurts." Or
>       "Wo ist deine Heimat?" can be translated into English
>       by "Where is home for you?" (although German "Heim" and
>       English "home" are also equivalents in a more concrete
>       sense).
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>       Fritz Goerling
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