[Lexicog] Re: Oh-oh! Typology, Reduplicatives & Lexemes

[bolstar1]

Hayim.....your background in, and underserstanding of languages and 
linguistic principles are attractive.I will continue to watch for 
your posts.

Scott N.


 --- In lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com, "bolstar1" <bolstar1 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Hayim, Fritz, John, et al: 
>        I mentioned that it is rather a tricky business categorizing 
> precise types of fixed phrases, as falling necessarily into one 
camp, 
> but not another. It becomes a question of typological imperative 
> (e.g. spacing for a particular publication), consensus among 
> lexicographers/linguists, intention of speaker, and usefulness to 
the 
> masses. The balance in making typological units concise – yet 
> inclusive -- is also tricky. 
>        This list exemplifies (though is far from comprehensive) the 
> point. I listed only emphatic reduplication  organized around  1) 
the 
> nine main parts of speech – verbs, (modals), participles, adverbs, 
> nouns, pronouns, adjectives, prepositions, interjections, and 
> articles (only conjunctions are omitted) and  2) around repeated 
> forms of reduplication (among the other forms mentioned). 
>         Some of these reduplicates are used also for writing out 
> phonetically-suggestive words (or sounds), 'echoing'. For example, 
an 
> echoic morph for the morpheme meaning "disapproval or annoyance" 
can 
> be the reduplicative `tsk-tsk', or `tut-tut' (perhaps a "lexeme" as 
> has been referred to lately)  – and best being categorized as 
either  
> 1) a verb in the imperative mood – implied meaning of "Don't do 
> that." Or  2) a verb in the indicative mood, meaning  "I am 
> disappointed in that!" Hence the `underlying "mood "of the verb 
(not 
> mood of the person) is up for grabs here. Or it could be 
categorized 
> as  3) an interjection – simply expressing disapproval, or an 
emotive 
> reaction, with no necessary lexical meat on its bones. If the 
> intention of the speaker had a truly "imperative" mood, then 
another 
> category would fit, or be warranted, or be assumed.  
>        A token morph for the morpheme/lexeme `farewell' can be 
spoken 
> and written as `ta-ta' (not emphatic, but demonstrating the point 
> still). On the other hand, a "sort-of word" (a whistle) for the 
> morpheme that expresses approval – as when a construction worker 
sees 
> an attractive woman walking by -- could be the reduplicative 'srrr-
> whistle' with a rising whistle-tone
immediately followed by the 
`srrr-
> whistle' descending whistle-tone. Whether in spoken or in written 
> form, they need categorizing. An all-inclusive group for that would 
> be simply a reduplicative. But under that paradigm could be 
included 
> non-verbal reduplicatives. The operative question here is whether 
> there are enough of those non-verbal reduplicative emotive lexemes 
to 
> warrant a whole category. Sure there are, if one wants to group 
them. 
> (There are more of those, like "Uh-hu!" and "Uh-uh!" and "Oh-oh! 
> And "Sheesh!           
> 
> Verbs  
> 
> never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity (i.e. not take 
> advantage of things)
> If I've told you once, I've told you a million times. (or '...a 
> thousand times)
> 
> (Either) put up or shut up!  
> 
> pooh-pooh....(something)   
> 
> talk the talk (and walk the walk) 
> (If you talk the talk, walk the walk!  
> 
> Whatever will be, will be.  
> 
> Whatever happens, happens. 
> 
> Wink, wink. (interjection & nonverbal communication)  
> 
> tut-tut someone (verb)
> 
> 
> Modals   
> If I can do it, you can do it.  
> If I can do it, anyone can do it.   
> If we can send a man (men) to the moon, we can...  
> If they can put a man on the moon...   
> I would if I could but I can't.   
> 
> Participles   
> I'm dying if I'm lying.  
> If I'm lying, I'm dying.   
> keep on keeping on   
> "And it's a high fly ball to deep left 
field...going...going...gone!"
> 
> Adverbs   
> over and over (again)  
> "I've told you over and and over about that!" 
> 
> 
blah, blah, blah.   
> et cetera, et cetera.   
> hurry-scurry  
> 
>  Hamlet 2.02.311-315
> 
> "What a piece of work is a
> man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties,  
> in form and moving how express and admirable, in
> action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a
> god: 
"
> It ain't over till it's over.   
> Never say never!   
> Never up, never in. (i.e. If the golf ball doesn't even reach the 
> hole, it can't go IN the hole.) 
> talk.../go.../rattle... on and on (about....(something)  
> 
> time after time
> time and time again  
> 
> The more things change, the more they stay the same.  
> 
> The more you get, the more you want.   
> 
> Nouns   
> (that's) a no-no  
> 
> a slim Jim
> Slim Jims  ™ 
> 
> Surprise, surprise. (ironic tone)
> 
> (Let's) call a spade a spade.  
> 
> Every day, in every way, I am getting better and better. (noun & 
> adjective forms)
> 
> fight fire with fire  
> 
> Location, location, location. (the key to successful real estate 
> planning)
> 
> out-Herod Herod (someone) (proper noun used as a verb (function)) 
> 
> Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.   
> 
> What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.  
> 
> Pronouns  
> 
> Everyone who's anyone (will be there).
> 
> not for nothing (did I...) (slang) 
> 
> 'Everybody's' business is 'nobody's' business.  
> 
> (for) you and you alone. 
> 
> I'm rubber, you're glue; what bounces off me sticks to you. 
> (rhyme)       
> 
> Adjectives  
> 
> Desperate diseases desperate remedies.  
> 
> a rootin'-tootin'.... 
> a rooting-tooting
; 
> a rootin', tootin', shootin'
)  
> 
> a blankety-blank....(something) (expletive deleted) 
> 
> a super-duper....(something)  
> 
> First things first.  
> 
> (just) hunky-dory  
> Everything's junky-dory.  
> 
> Same old same old.  
> Same ol', same ol'.  
> 
> (went) sky-high  
> 
> Some men are born great, some men achievement, some men have 
> greatness thrust upon them. (Shakespeare) 
> 
> Prepositions  
> 
> In for a penny, in for a pound. (& alliteration) 
> 
> betwixt and between (two things)
> 
> a little of this and a little of that
> 
> Interjections  
> 
> Hell's bells!  
> Hell's bells and buckets of blood!  
> 
> Here, here!  
> 
> Hubba-hubba!  
> 
> Well, well. If it isn't....(someone).  
> 
> tsk-tsk someone (verb)
> 
> Tsk-tsk! 
> 
> Tut-tut! 
> 
> Articles  
> 
> 
's the name, 
's the game. (definite article & rhyme)  
> 
> The more the merrier. (definite article -- 'the' & alliteration) 
> 
> Where there's a will there's a way. (indefinite article 'a' & 
pronoun 
> & alliteration) 
> 
>  -- Have fun "typing" these. There are many more where they came 
> from. 
> 
> Scott N.
>




 
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