[Lexicog] mentee/mentoree
Benjamin Barrett
gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Thu Jun 28 02:27:20 UTC 2007
Your right! I was in a rush when this thread caught me.
Stress does not seem to be an issue because the -ee suffix seems to
maintain stress and allow stress on the syllable immediately preceding.
-ate seems to be a common morpheme in non-monosyllabic verbs and seems
to drop out readily (amputee).
One other item that struck me is that mentoree should certainly be
acceptable because while there isn't a verb ment, there is a verb
mentor. The fact that mentee is catching on instead perhaps indicates a
shift in what's going on. BB
David Tuggy wrote:
>
> Seems more like "truncate a bit before adding -ee, as long as you can
> still recognize the stem". Dedic is dissyllabic. And of course other
> dissillable stems as in employee, attendee, etc. are perfectly normal;
> those like standee or hiree are a bit odder.
>
> Or maybe it's "drop latinate derivational suffixes (e.g. -ize, -ate)
> before adding -ee. (I have collected others where -ate is dropped
> before -ee, but am not finding them.
>
> --David Tuggy
>
> Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>
>> Excellent counterexamples to my claim, thank you!
>>
>> It sounds like what's going on is that a single-syllabic stem is being
>> employed to form new -ee words. I wonder if there's a phonetic template
>> that's causing this...
>>
>> Benjamin Barrett
>> a cyberbreath for language life
>> livinglanguages.wordpress.com
>>
>> David Tuggy wrote:
>>
>>> -ee spawns oddities, it seems to me. Two others I have enjoyed, and
>>> seen in fairly high-falutin’ publications, are baptee (=one who has
>>> been baptized) and dediquee.
>>>
>>> --David Tuggy
>>>
>>> Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The normal formation is to add -er/-or to get the person doing it and
>>>> add -ee to the receiver of the action. So employ-> employer, employee,
>>>> address -> addresser, addressee. There isn't a verb for mentor, but
>>>> using back formation you get: mentor <- ment and then ment -> mentee. BB
>>>>
>>>> Fritz Goerling wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I discussed with David Frank, an SIL colleague on this list, whether
>>>>> ”mentee” or “mentoree” is more common.
>>>>>
>>>>
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