[Lexicog] Making verbs alphabetize correctly in an English to Karuk finderlist

[Ronald Moe]

Susan Gehr wrote:

“What would you put in the \ge \re and \de fields?”

 

The crucial issue in a finder list is to alphabetize the entries under those
words that the user is most likely to look under in order to find the entry
he is looking for. So you should pick the key word (or words) in the
definition and put it first:

 

\re year, be a

\re exhausted, be

\re exhausted, be completely

\re sober, be

\re thin, be

\re thin, be very

\re sick, be

\re sick, get

 

If you have a verb that means something like “be completely exhausted so
that you can no longer continue working”, I would fill in the \ge \re and
\de fields thus:

 

\ge be.completely.exhausted

\re exhausted, be completely

\de to be completely exhausted so that you can no longer continue working

 

The gloss should be a short (preferably one word) string of characters with
no spaces. If you need more than one word in the gloss, you should join them
with a period or underscore. The reversal should be relatively short and
should begin with the key word from the definition. The definition should
aim at being a complete description of the meaning and usage. I would avoid
“to” in both the gloss and reversal fields unless it is needed to
disambiguate a noun and verb pair. Since an interlinear display usually
includes a line for the grammatical category, you don’t need to disambiguate
the gloss. So a noun/verb pair would be treated thus:

 

\lx agapao

\ps v

\ge love

\re love, to

\de to love someone and want to do good things for them

 

\lx agape

\ps n

\ge love

\re love

\de love, the desire to do good things for someone

 

Ron Moe

 

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[mailto:lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan Gehr
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:08 PM
To: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Lexicog] Making verbs alphabetize correctly in an English to Karuk
finderlist

 

I’m working on the second edition of the Karuk Dictionary, and one of the
suggestions that came out of the Karuk Dictionary Advisory Group was to
address the clump of verbs that is stuck in the “be ___” section of the
English-Karuk finderlist.

We’re using Shoebox for Mac, though once I get my license for Office 2003
for Windows, we’re moving over to Toolbox for Windows.  

I knew how to avoid clumping verbs at the “to _____” section of the
English-Karuk, so the verb “bend” is between “Ben Wilder” and “beneath”.

But I wasn’t sure what to do with verbs that translate as “be ____”, such as
“be a year” “be exhausted” “be completely exhausted” “be sober”, “be thin”
and “be very thin” “be sick” and “get sick”

What would you do with those verbs?

What would you put in the \ge \re and \de fields?

Thanks,
-- 
Susan Gehr
Karuk Language Program Director
Karuk Tribe of California
PO Box 1016, Happy Camp, CA 96039
(800) 505-2785 x2205  NEW FAX # (530) 493-1658

Karuk Language Resources on the Web - HYPERLINK
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Karuk Dictionary - HYPERLINK
"http://dictionary.karuk.org/"http://dictionary.-karuk.org/

 


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