[Lexicog] Law of Synonyms
Kenneth C. Hill
kennethchill at YAHOO.COM
Thu Oct 16 22:44:48 UTC 2008
In my experience a "portable" computer is not necessarily a "laptop" or "notebook" computer. My first computer (in 1985) was a KayPro with a (wow!) 10-megabyte hard disk. Its keyboard and central processing unit, including the monitor with a green display, clipped together to form a single unit about the size of a suitcase. It was portable but rather heavy and would never be regarded as a "laptop" computer.
--Ken
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote:
From: Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org>
Subject: RE: [Lexicog] Law of Synonyms
To: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:26 AM
Jon,
Maybe one of use. I only use the word ‘computer’ although I
know that is not precise. I was surprised during a recent 7-month-stay in Germany to hear
only the word “notebook.” Denotatively all three refer to the same
thing. Semantically the accent is put of different aspects: you can put it on
your lap,
It functions like a notebook, you can
carry it.
Fritz Goerling
Fritz,
What would you say is the semantic difference
between 'laptop', 'notebook' and 'portable computer', then?
Jon Mills
--- In lexicographylist@ yahoogroups. com,
"Fritz Goerling"
<Fritz_Goerling@ ...> wrote:
>
> Is there a law of synonyms? I don't believe in synonyms. No two
words are
> exactly "synonymous" from the point of view of connotation.
>
> Concerning your example from the computer domain, let me mention
another
> example, given to me by a computer specialist. Who speaks of 'jump
drive' or
> 'pen drive' any more? It's probably between 'flash drive'
and 'thumb drive'
> nowadays. And who knows what will come up next.
>
> When two or more expressions come up at about the same time and
compete,
> 'brevity (punch)' is one factor IMO that makes the winner.
>
>
>
> Brevity is the soul of wit (Shakespeare, Hamlet 2, 86-92),
>
> Fritz Goerling
>
> Law of Synonyms
> There must be a law of synonyms somewhere (of phrasal synomyms
> in particular). Dictionaries and thesauruses (thesauri) seem too
> arbitrary & random too trust for this purpose. Of course, corpora
> listings are easy for words. I've been wondering for years what the
> world would gravitate toward -- "laptop" or "notebook"
> computer. "Portable computer" seems quaint, but... The reason
I'm
> fishing in this pond is that I would hate wading through
> dissertations or theses looking for synonym principles (must be
lazy
> or something). The only simple, quick source for finding phrasal
> frequency comparisons seems to be google-counting. "Laptop"
(computer
> (s)) wins on this one, generally by 22%-30%. But we're dealing with
> the `phrase' "notebook computer" and "laptop
computer."
> Googling "notebook" alone skews the results.
> Has anyone done, or seen, research about how one term (or
> phrase) tends to predominate over others -- when two or more
> expressions begin at about the same time? Is is there a phonetic
> (e.g. reduplicative, length, ease-of-pronunciati on) influence? Is
> there a "great-man" influence, according to coiner? First come,
first
> served? Regional? Or is it truly unpredicable?
> This is an open-ended question.... Any ideas?
>
> Scott Nelson
>
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