Q/Clf in Thai
cholthicha sudmuk
cholthy at mail.utexas.edu
Fri Nov 21 09:10:24 UTC 2003
Dear Peter,
I found the discussion about the Thai construction that is similar to the
one that you are working on in Warotamasikkhadit's paper
in 1995. He says that Thai has the phenomenon called 'Backward
Topicalization' as in (i).
(i) a. phoo sie kaangkeeng soong tau maa hay phom
father buy pants two CL come give I
'Father bought two pairs of pants and gave them to me.'
b. phoo sie maa hay phom kaangkeeng soong tau
father buy come give I pants two CL
'Father bought for me, two pairs of pants.'
Warotamasikkhadit indicates that when an argument is emphasized or
attention-centered, it can be moved to the end of a
sentence. As in (ib), the NP kaangkeeng soong tau 'two pairs of pants"
is moved to the end of a sentence.
The numeral and the classifier modifying the noun, but not the whole NP,
can be topicalized by moving them to the end of
the sentence too, as in (ii).
(ii) phoo sie kaangkeeng maa hay phom soong tau
father buy pants come give I two CL
'Father bought two pairs of pants for me.'
The sentence (ii) is similar to the sentences in 1) that you are working on
except that the whole NP (NP + number + classifier)
is in the object position.
[ Your sentences are:
1) a. dek ni (thuk/sii) khon pai rong rian
child DX:near (all/four) CLF go school ('khon' must refer to
humans)
"(all) these (four) children are going to school"
b. dek ni pai rong rian (thuk/sii) khon
"these children are (all/*four) going to school" ]
Moreover, the numeral and the classifier modifying the noun can also be
moved to the middle of the sentence to show
the lesser degree of topicalization because the primary emphasis is on hay
phom 'giving me' as in (iii).
(iii) phoo sie kaangkeeng maa soong tau hay phom
father buy pants come two CL give I
'Father bought two pairs of pants and gave them to me.'
This discussion is in Warotamasikkhadit 's paper in 1995:
Warotamasikkhadit, Udom. 1995. Fronting and backing topicalization in Thai.
Proceedings of the 28th International Conference on
Sino-Tibetan Languages and Linguistics at the University of Virginia,
Charlottesville, VA.
I also have more information about your sentences in 1). The demonstrative
adjective nii 'this' in 1a. should be after the whole NP
like dek dek thung sii khon nii 'all these four children' and it can stick
with the number and classifier at the end of the sentence too, as in (iv).
(v) dek dek pay roong rian thung sii khon nii
children go school all four CL this
I hope that these informations might be helpful for your analysis.
Best,
Chol
Cholthicha Sudmuk
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Department of Linguistics
University of Texas at Austin
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