Fwd: Re: Plagirism again, please join the discussion on research gate

[Stefan Müller]

Just saw, that you also posted to LFG, so here it is for LFG too:


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Betreff: Re: Plagirism again, please join the discussion on research gate
Datum: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 12:44:39 +0200
Von: Stefan Müller <Stefan.Mueller at fu-berlin.de>
An: Valia Kordoni <evangelia.kordoni at anglistik.hu-berlin.de>,
HPSG-L at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG

Dear Valia,

I see your point and maybe I overreacted. But on the other hand this is
such an unbelievable case and I think such cases have to be discussed in
public. People have to become aware that this is not tolerated and that
it is not just Germany where two ministers (defense and education) had
to step down and several other politicians are under investigation.

Please rest assured that I would not have acted differently if she was
male. Referring to the gender of the accused person in this debate is
almost an insult to me. I try to be gender-balanced in everything I do
(for instance Language Science Press [check the board], my staff, ...).
Even my family is gender-balanced: one boy and one girl and my wife is
full Professor.

Well, I should remove the "almost".

Furthermore she has a way to respond to the discussion on ResearchGate:

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Shouldnt_this_paper_be_withdrawn_from_researchgate_Plagiarism

Guess what she did when I addded a review and started the discussion:
She started to follow me. I asked her to unfollow me and so she did. I
asked her twice to remove the papers, but she did not.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/255947424_TYPOLOGICA_SEMANTIK_IM_DEUTSCHEN_UND_IM_SPANISCHEN_TOPOLOGISCHE_DEIKTISCHE_UND_DIMENSIONALE_KONZEPTE_DER_LOKALEN_PRPOSITIONEN

She seems to be absolutely unaware of the dimensions of her failure.

If one uploads papers to platforms like RG or academia the purpose is to
make people read this stuff and discuss it, to get publicity. To build a
web of trust and respect. This is what RG tries to measure with a score.
If one plagiarizes somebody elses work, one should be aware of the risk
that it is discussed on discussion places like RG. If one realizes the
mistakes one made, one can withdraw a paper.

Using the email lists is basically an effective way to invite people to
this discussion. Otherwise they may not check there RG accounts and miss
the opportunity to participate in such exiting debates.

I incorporated Detmar's findings in the annotated document:

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Note: If this case would not have become public, we never would have
learned about these additional cases of plagiarism in this and other
documents. It takes a lot of time to look into this in detail.

Best wishes

        Stefan


PS: For those who do not know me: There is one small portion in this
email that is not meant seriously.

St.

Am 30.03.14 09:54, schrieb Valia Kordoni:
> Dear All,
> 
> I personally feel (from the first moment I read the original message)
> extremely uncomfortable that all this sensitive info is being discussed on
> a mailing list, and we are all implicitly/explicitly being asked to pass
> judgements on the scientific deeds and the quality of such deeds of a
> (female) person, and to take sides. Is she a member of any of the lists
> where the original email went to? How can she participate in the
> discussion and get the chance to defend herself, if there is anything to
> defend and if she can? I am really sorry to say this. I strongly believe
> that such issues should be taken to and resolved by justice bodies/courts:
> defaming someone is bad an offence as plagiarism.
> 
> Regards,
> Valia


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