diglossia / societal multilingualism

[Alkistis Fleischer]

I realize that I replied to this too fast. In his message, Joshua Fishman
gave examples of long-lasting (> 3 gens.) societal multilingualisms, and the
Katharevusa / Demotiki case as an example of a long-lasting societal
multilingualism, not necessarily as a case of multilingualism that survives
to the present day (my assumption when I replied). Greek diglossia qualifies
of course as an example of long-lasting societal multilingualism.

Regarding my comment about the Greek case being an example of diglossia, but
not societal multilingualism, I was operating with Fergusonian diglossia.

Sorry about the misunderstanding!

Alkistis Fleischer

----- Original Message -----

From: "Alkistis Fleischer" <fleischa at georgetown.edu>
To: <lgpolicy-list at ccat.sas.upenn.edu>
Cc: <joshuaafishman at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Quebec Seeks to Ease Divisiveness


> Thanks for providing these examples.
> A note on Greek though: the much cited distinction betwen Demotiki and
> Katharevusa (which, the way I see it, would be an example of diglossia,
but
> not societal multilingualism) is outdated. Demotiki (the former L-variety)
> has for many years been the standard variety commonly used in Greece, at
> schools, universities, the workplace, in the media, etc.
>
> Alkistis Fleischer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Fishman" <joshuaafishman at yahoo.com>
> To: <lgpolicy-list at ccat.sas.upenn.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Quebec Seeks to Ease Divisiveness
>
>
> > Some Examples of Long-lasting (> 3 gens.)
> > Societal multilingualisms: Basque-Spanish,
> > Catalan-Spanish, +Swiss German-High German,
> > +Sanskrit-Hindi, Classical Tamil-vernacular
> > Tamil, +Kathurevusa-Demotiki, Hebrew-Aramaic,
> > Yiddish-Hebrew, +Koranic-Vernacular Arabic,
> > Mandarin-Cantonese, Sicilian-Italian,
> > Greek-Egyptian demotic. These 12 examples differ
> > in many ways from each other, including current
> > stability, genesis-scenarios and functional
> > allocations, but they have each lasted for well
> > over 3 generations and are each still going
> > strong in at least part of their own speech
> > communities.
> > (+=Fergusonian diglossia)
> > Joshua A. Fishman
> > Joshua A. Fishman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Survey Coordinator Brazil
> > <survey_coord_brazil at sil.org> wrote:
> > > Dear Dr. Fishman,
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear that group bilingualism can
> > > last indefinitely in many
> > > cases.  I'm just not aware of many.
> > > Guarani/Spanish in Paraguay comes to
> > > mind.  What are the many other cases?
> > >
> > > Stan Anonby
> > >
> >
> >
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