[lg policy] how to organise this style

Wed Feb 17 01:07:48 UTC 2010

If it is a reprint, you do not need to give the date of the reprint at all, but only the date of the edition. The pagination should be the same, but if it isn't (as in the case of a reprinted classic, for example) then you add the extra information in the bibliography.

Don't get obsessed with the mechanics. What matters is (1) the date it was first said; (2) where you read it. There are many ways of showing this clearly.

BTW, I'm not 'Dr Frazer'. In most European styles (except Iceland, where there are usually patronymics rather than surnames) the surname, which is what goes with the title, is the final word, so I would be 'Dr Gupta'. My personal name is 'Anthea', which is what my friends would call me. The only titles that go with 'Anthea' are kinship titles like 'Aunty', by the way. 'Fraser' is a 'middle name', which means it is part of my personal name, but only used when my whole name is used. Hope this is helpful.

Be careful with spelling too, both with me and Myers-Scotton.

Anthea
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Anthea Fraser Gupta (Dr)
School of English, University of Leeds, LS2 9JT
<www.leeds.ac.uk/english/staff/afg<http://www.leeds.ac.uk/english/staff/afg>>
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From: lgpolicy-list-bounces at groups.sas.upenn.edu [lgpolicy-list-bounces at groups.sas.upenn.edu] On Behalf Of mostari hind [hmostari at yahoo.com]
Sent: 16 February 2010 11:44
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Subject: RE: [lg policy] how to organise this style

Dear Dr Frazer ,
I think you are right , we have to quote the author from both editions using diferrent dates , let's say :
Labov (1984) states : ".................."

and labov (1971) : states  : ".............."

I think, even if it is not a new  edition which will forcebly contain some modifications as with MyersScoton's (1993 ,1997) , if it is even a matter of reprint , we should use the date of the enw edition , because we are not sure if the quotations still remain in the same pages and lines as in the initial edition . What do you think so ?
we should just refer to the 1st edition or reprint in the bibliography , taht wil be helpful for the readers .

all the best and once again thank you for your eluminating comments

Dr Mostari

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Anthea Fraser Gupta <A.F.Gupta at leeds.ac.uk> wrote:

From: Anthea Fraser Gupta <A.F.Gupta at leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [lg policy] how to organise this style
To: "Language Policy List" <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 11:19 PM

Don't forget that there is a difference between a reprint and a new edition. The date of a reprint doesn't matter as the text is the same, but a new edition includes some re-writes.

If you want to discuss her views in the historical context of the subject and at the same time reflect her current thinking, you could do something like:

"Myers-Scotton first developed the concept in 1993 (Myers-Scotton 1993) and has continued to refine it." Then refer to her very latest work to discuss it. I would list both editions separately.

You can get into problems with later editions, because someone else can be using the concept in, say, 1995, perhaps disagreeing, and it makes it look as if they are responding to something in the future.

Anthea
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Anthea Fraser Gupta (Dr)
School of English, University of Leeds, LS2 9JT
<www.leeds.ac.uk/english/staff/afg<http://www.leeds.ac.uk/english/staff/afg>>
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Sent: 15 February 2010 19:42
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Subject: Re: [lg policy] how to organise this style

hi,
It can be Myers-Scotton' book or any other book , the idea is not the book but rather how to quote the author from a book with two edition dates .

all the best
Mostari

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Christina Paulston <paulston at pitt.edu<http://us.mc528.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulston@pitt.edu>> wrote:

From: Christina Paulston <paulston at pitt.edu<http://us.mc528.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulston@pitt.edu>>
Subject: Re: [lg policy] how to organise this style
To: "Language Policy List" <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu<http://us.mc528.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lgpolicy-list@groups.sas.upenn.edu>>
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 7:37 PM

Mostari,
Why don't you ask Carol Myers-Scotton herself.  You should find the address above. CBPaulston

On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:45 PM, mostari hind wrote:

Hi everybody ,
I will appreciate rapid answer from your part :

well , I have a book of Myers-Scotton (1993) and I have the 2nd edition (1997) .
I know that in the bibliography , I should write Myers-Scotton (1993 ) ..........[1997 reprint]
but , the problem raises within my work, shall I write :
Myers-Scotton (1993) states : "........................"
or rather :  Myers-Scotton (1997) ?

I did not find an anwer from the MLA site .

I am looking forward to reading your anwers .

all the best
Mostari
Algeria

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