[lg policy] Re: 'Linguists Outside Academia', a new group for academic nomads and drifters

Tue Feb 7 15:26:09 UTC 2012

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On 7 Feb, 2012, at 21:45, Dave Sayers <D.Sayers at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

> As if I hadn't written enough the first time around, I did manage to omit something. Let that be a lesson to me for only spending four hours on it.
> 
> Linguists Outside Academia is a Google Group, but you don't need a Gmail address to join (almost all our signups have been Gmail addresses). Any old email address will do, and it's much like registering for any other website. Your email address will act as a username for Google Groups, and you'll pick a separate password. For example, if your email address is dr.nobody at nowhere.edu, then your Google Group username will also be dr.nobody at nowhere.edu, and you'll pick a password separate from the one you use to log into your emails at mail.nowhere.edu.
> 
> If anyone has any trouble, don't hesitate to get in touch.
> 
> And since I'm emailing, allow me to boast that we've already amassed 38 members! (39 if you count both my accounts, which I do.) We've also now got a third moderator, Anna Belew, currently of LinguistList fame.
> 
> One last thing: I've had quite a few deferential and timid emails from end-stage postgraduates, asking if they can join up. I don't see why not. If you're peering into the abyss beyond grad school, then you're probably feeling the beginnings of the quivering abject terror that the originally intended members feel as a daily routine. So, join us and share in the chilly bewilderment of wallowing in the quagmire of unemployability.
> 
> See you there!
> 
> Dave
> 
> --
> Dr. Dave Sayers
> Honorary Research Fellow
> College of Arts & Humanities
> and Language Research Centre
> Swansea University
> dave.sayers at cantab.net
> http://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/02/2012 21:01, Dave Sayers wrote:
>> Now this is the story all about how,
>> my life got flipped turned upside down,
>> and I'd like to take a minute just sit right there,
>> I'll tell you how I became the moderator of a new group called Linguists
>> Outside Academia.
>> 
>> That's right, I just parodied the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air to introduce a
>> new academic group that I've made. That, my friends, is how I roll.
>> 
>> So, like, here's how it happened...
>> 
>> 1. I realised that my chances of finding academic employment any time
>> soon were slim to nil at best; and rather than simply wither alone, I
>> wanted to share my misery with others. A problem shared is, after all, a
>> problem halved (unless you're the one who the problem is being shared
>> with, in which case you've just gained half a problem, but let's leave
>> that to one side).
>> 
>> 2. I thought, hey, surely there are other people like me out there,
>> jobless people with PhDs, still publishing and presenting their research
>> for some reason, but without the tiniest chance of getting even the
>> lowliest fixed-term part-time adjunct academic post with no prospects
>> whatsoever attached to it. Not even an email notifying me that I'd been
>> rejected! Er, I mean, notifying them that they'd been rejected...
>> 
>> 3. I sent a nice email to a number of learned societies (email
>> subscription lists) asking whether there existed any sort of group,
>> association, sub-group, knitting circle, etc., for linguists like me,
>> doing research but outside of academic settings. In order to create the
>> impression that I'm not entirely self-absorbed, I also included a second
>> relevant category of people, those doing research for non-academic
>> organisations.
>> 
>> 4. I received quite literally some responses. A few people pointed me to
>> organisations like BAAL, but while these sorts of organisations do
>> accommodate people outside academia (to varying degrees), that's not
>> really what they're all about. Other responses were from people like me,
>> people who share my pain! *sniff* There are like-minded rolling stones
>> out there after all. In fact, these responses soon became the majority.
>> More and more of my fellow academic stragglers and outcasts contacted
>> me, calling out from scattered locations in the wilderness of the
>> academic badlands. Bleary-eyed, running short on opportunity but not on
>> determination, weary from beating the path to countless unobtainable
>> jobs, speaking to numerous empty conference audiences, born back
>> ceaselessly into utter obscurity, they spoke, through the dark shadows
>> and foggy haze, to me....
>> 
>> 6. All these people said they definitely wanted to be part of whatever
>> group I was setting up. Hmm. At first I politely pointed out that I
>> hadn't actually offered to make any such thing; all I did was ask if it
>> already existed. After a while I realised that I had, of course,
>> inadvertently volunteered myself. Perhaps I wanted this all along.
>> Perhaps my thirst for fame and influence has come to this: staking out
>> my niche in academic cyberspace, and becoming master of all I survey,
>> king of my particular hill. So be it.
>> 
>> 7. I approached the good people at www.jiscmail.ac.uk, asking if I could
>> create an email list for linguists doing research outside academia. I
>> explained that the prospective members of such a group were
>> research-active, so this would fit jiscmail's criterion of relevance to
>> academia. But they said no! Meanies. Not only that, they even tried to
>> hawk some second-rate paid alternative on me, www.mailtalk.ac.uk, which
>> they said could be mine for the low low price of £120 a year!! £120??
>> What do they think this is, the 1990s?? Well, after harrumphing and
>> shaking my fists at my computer screen for quite some time, I decided I
>> didn't need their help anyway.
>> 
>> 8. After considering a number of options, it came down to either a
>> Google Group, or a knitting circle. It was a tough decision, but in the
>> end I went for a Google Group -- much to the disappointment of my
>> grandmother, for whom the knitting circle held out the first hope that
>> the two of us could finally share a leisure pursuit. Ho hum...
>> 
>> So, here it is -- and congratulations to all those who have made it
>> through this rambling opus of an email (which I will soon be adding to
>> my list of publications):
>> 
>> https://groups.google.com/group/ling-outside/
>> 
>> Allow me also to introduce my co-moderator listed on the site, Richard
>> Littauer, who not only responded at point #4 above, but also offered to
>> help. The fool!
>> 
>> In the introductory blurb I've also widened the target group to include
>> those on unstable university teaching contracts -- after an email from a
>> friend currently in that situation, who felt almost as peripheral to
>> linguistic academia as me. Now, from where I'm sitting, he looks like
>> the proverbial man who sweats gold and is upset he doesn't sneeze
>> diamonds, such is my relative obscurity; but I have heard similar tales
>> of woe about people in those sorts of jobs feeling excluded, and far be
>> from me to exclude people from a group designed for people who feel
>> excluded. So they can come along too, but only if they feel sufficiently
>> marginalised. There will be a test.
>> 
>> To kick things off and entice people in with the promise of useful
>> information, I've written down the sum total of my knowledge about eking
>> out some sort of professional profile whilst pretending to be an
>> academic. I realise that by saying "sum total" I've given the lie to the
>> idea that there will be further useful information. Who knows, maybe
>> I'll think of something more. Hopefully though, the group will soon be
>> busy with useful tips from others. And that's the point of this really,
>> for the dispersed and obscure diaspora of linguistic nobodies to help
>> each other with a sense of shared purpose, common destiny, mutual
>> irrelevance, and collective destitution.
>> 
>> Please pass on the good word of this group as far and wide as you can --
>> and forgive me for taking up your time with such seemingly endless,
>> circuitous, periphrastic circumlocution. If anything, this has certainly
>> not been a lesson in perspicuity. My apologies also for cross-posting
>> this message to a frankly offensive number of email lists. You know what
>> they say though, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>> 
>> Speaking of which, this old chestnut is oddly pertinent:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyA6jAM3_I
>> 
>> Thanks all, hope to see you in the new group soon. Byeeee!!
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Dr. Dave Sayers
>> Honorary Research Fellow
>> College of Arts & Humanities
>> and Language Research Centre
>> Swansea University
>> dave.sayers at cantab.net
>> http://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers
>> 
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