query about dialect marker

[Woolard, Kathryn]

You may be able to add Yale undergrads to that category; suggested on
basis of one speaker raised in L.A. who went to Yale and has this feature.

Kit Woolard

-----Original Message-----
From: galey modan <gmodan at GMAIL.COM>
Reply-To: galey modan <gmodan at GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:26 PM
To: "LINGANTH at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
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Subject: Re: query about dialect marker

>In my experience, this seems to be a feature of the idiolect of certain
>people *not* from Massachusetts who went to Harvard as undergrads.
>Seriously, I've met a number of people with this background who have no
>other eastern Mass features and in fact have features of other dialects
>(like, for example, the dialect where they're actually from) but say
>rahther and cahn't. All academics, for what it's worth. (It *is* a feature
>of older versions of a Boston dialect, perhaps eastern New England in
>general, but I'll leave that detail to the dialectologists.)
>
>Galey Modan
>
>2012/9/13 Harriet Ottenheimer <mahafan at ksu.edu>
>
>> On a different matter, I am trying to pin down the most likely
>> geographical provenance of the "rather/rahther" distinction in American
>> English (apologies for the "spelling").
>>
>> Specifically, I am trying to find out where in the U.S. a person might
>> hail from if he/she regularly pronounces "rather" the same way most
>> Americans pronounce "father" or "bother," with a low central [a] and not
>> with a front mid [ae].
>>
>> Can anyone help? The person in question exhibits no other evidence of
>> having any regional accent AT ALL.
>>
>> Harriet Ottenheimer
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2012 2:01 PM, Leila Monaghan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> A colleague has an interesting language related project on Kickstarter.
>>>   What is the consensus of the list about people mentioning these
>>>projects
>>> on the list?  Is this considered spam, useful sharing of information,
>>> something else entirely?
>>>
>>> all best,
>>>
>>> Leila
>>>
>>>
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