[Linganth] It turns out that Jane Hill is white(!)

Fri Jan 30 17:48:39 UTC 2015

I do think we make a difference in our classrooms. Over the years I've seen
lights go on in discussing dialect differences, for example.

Everyone is correct, of course, about the structural aspects and Fox News.
Perhaps I'm just more hopeful, but I think we tend to essentialize the
demographic that Fox News is trying to cement. Not everyone who might
listen to Fox News is completely closed to carefully reasoned argument with
evidence. Unfortunately, much of our work (including my own!) desperately
needs "translation" to be more widely understood.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Judy Pine <Judy.Pine at wwu.edu> wrote:

>  Another tricky bit is that the use of hyperbole to draw sharp political
> lines is not restricted to one ideological stance.  I find myself
> increasingly annoyed by headlines purporting to show me some public figure
> thoroughly beaten in discussion in a public forum, often with a video which
> only could be interpreted that way from a particular stance.  I am not sure
> how, or even if, we can build a political discourse that relies in reason
> rather than “gotcha!” tactics, but it does feel as if this is something we,
> as linguistic anthropologists, ought to be thinking about.
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> Meantime off I go to teach my students that, from a North Korean
> perspective, the US looks bat shit crazy and dangerously unpredictable.
>   (the other half of my job title is Asian ethnographer…)  Maybe,
> hopefully, we are making a difference in our classrooms?
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> -          Judy
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> *From:* Linganth [mailto:linganth-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Bruce Mannheim
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 8:30 AM
> *To:* Bonnie Urciuoli
> *Cc:* Marcia Farr; linganth at listserv.linguistlist.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Linganth] It turns out that Jane Hill is white(!)
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> Bonnie is absolutely correct here.  I sent the link around to colleagues
> here who teach Jane's book and articles to use in classes.   The change of
> prepositions from the book title to what is described in the clip is not a
> matter of sloppiness, but is what Bonnie says that it is: "deployed
> entirely in service to creating sharp political lines and cementing their
> demographic."
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> Lies, damn lies, and changing prepositions.
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> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Bonnie Urciuoli <burciuol at hamilton.edu>
> wrote:
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> Well put.  It's the same dynamic as what happens every time any politician
> with an even remotely progressive message tries to explain it to the
> general public.  The problem is, we as academics value accurate
> explanation.  But the likes of Fox or of shall we say certain political
> operatives are not remotely invested in any notion of accurate explanation
> -- for them reference is deployed entirely in service to creating sharp
> political lines and cementing their demographic.  I do not know how to
> fight any of that directly.
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> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, galey modan <gmodan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It's not just a question of reaching out 'beyond the academy', though --
> this story was instigated by a college student -- one who didn't think
> there was anything strange about complaining about book titles of books she
> hadn't read for a course she didn't take. And there is a larger, more
> general problem when a major news network thinks it reasonable to cook up a
> story about book titles in which the actual content of the books is deemed
> too irrelevant to address. Not sure what it would take to instigate the
> monumental cultural shift in attitudes towards the academy that would be
> needed for such stories to be universally deemed ridiculous.
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> Galey
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> 2015-01-28 12:55 GMT-05:00 Marcia Farr <farrmarcia at gmail.com>:
>
> What this also shows, unfortunately, is how wide the gap is between most
> "white" people and academics. We have to continue to document and analyze
> as we do, but we also should be working on explaining our work to reach
> these people, or things will never change.
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> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bonnie Urciuoli <burciuol at hamilton.edu>
> wrote:
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> Racism can be problematic for everyone -- who knew?
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> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, PAUL B Garrett <pgarrett at temple.edu>
> wrote:
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> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/27/fox-news-white-racism_n_6557540.html
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