[Linganth] First person pronouns

Tatsuma Padoan tp26 at soas.ac.uk
Sat Aug 26 02:57:50 UTC 2017


Hello,

Although not an alternative type of singular first person pronoun (only an
alternative pronominal option for singular users), Benveniste interestingly
refers to the category of "amplified person" when discussing the use of
"we" for self-presentation of singular speaking subjects, as in the case of
pluralis maiestatis, or pluralis modestiae ("pop. Tuscan, 'Noi si canta'",
Problems in General Linguistics, p. 203).

Best,
Tatsuma

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Dr Tatsuma PADOAN

JSPS Postdoctoral Fellow

Department of Anthropology

Osaka University, Japan


Research Associate

Department of Religions and Philosophies

School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London

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On 26 August 2017 at 06:16, Liz Coville <ecoville at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Cyndi,
>
> To follow up on the Malay example, Pete Becker alluded to Maly first
> person singular pronouns in his short essay "Silence across languages" in *Beyond
> Translation*: *Essays toward a Modern Philology* (1995) (and probably
> elsewhere as well):
>
> "When we confront a distant language, we are compelled to give full
> attention to the fact that saying, for instance, "I am" is something we do
> with words in English, for in that distant language there is no *I* like
> our *I*, and no *am* at all.  To put one's speaking self into words in
> Burmese, Javanese or Malay is to make claims of status (high or low) that
> alienate our very selves... (284)."
>
> Best,
>
> Liz
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM So Miyagawa <runa.uei at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cyndi,
>>
>> Malay has *aku *(informal) and* saya *(formal) as the first-person
>> singular pronouns.
>>
>> Reference:
>> Current Trends in Pronoun Usage Among Malay Speakers
>> by Normala Othman
>> http://www.philippines-languages.sil.org/ical/papers/othman-
>> Current%20Trends%20in%20Pronoun%20Usage.pdf (see p.5)
>>
>> I'm a native Japanese speaker, so I wanted to tell you Japanese examples,
>> but you've already mentioned that.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> So
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cynthia Dunn <cyndi.dunn at uni.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all.  I am writing a piece talking about the use of pronouns in
>>> self-representation and I wanted to ask if people are aware of languages
>>> besides Japanese which offer speakers a choice of more than one option for
>>> singular, first-person pronouns (based on things like gender, situational
>>> formality etc).  If you are, I would appreciate a brief grammatical outline
>>> of the system and/or direction to an appropriate reference work.  You can
>>> contact me directly off the list at: Cyndi.Dunn at uni.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> Cyndi Dunn
>>> Professor of Anthropology
>>> Dept. of Sociology, Anthropology & Criminology
>>> University of Northern Iowa
>>> Cedar Falls IA 50614-0513 U.S.A.
>>>
>>> (319) 273-6251
>>> Cyndi.Dunn at uni.edu
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