[Linganth] Linganth Digest, Vol 51, Issue 12

Wed Dec 12 22:06:26 UTC 2018

Responding to the qual data analysis question, I'll just put in Transana
since nobody (unless I missed a thread) said that one yet. The pro version
does cost some money but can handle up to 4 media files at the same time
along with 4 or 5 transcripts. Several strong ways to organize data and
search.  Yes has learning curve but the support is really strong.

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> From: Alexander King <aking at koryaks.net>
> To: linganth <LINGANTH at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Linganth] qualitative coding software
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> ELAN is not easy to use or learn, but colleagues tell me that does not
> distinguish it from Atlas TI. ELAN is free (
> https://tla.mpi.nl/tools/tla-tools/elan/ <
> https://tla.mpi.nl/tools/tla-tools/elan/>) and generates xml files that
> are open source. It points to the media files, so they can be stored
> separately from transcription/annotation files. It has a transcription mode
> that works ok for me. The annotation tool is nice in that it can go on
> forever and you can re-arrange things depending on your needs at the
> moment. It has powerful search functions that I don’t fully know how to
> use. There is a pretty comprehensive instruction manual and if you know any
> linguist working on an endangered language, they probably have experience
> with it, too. ELAN can also be used to output DVD/video subtitles, although
> I haven’t done that yet. ELAN works on Mac/PC/Linux.
>
> ELAN is designed for close transcription and annotation of audio and video
> files, so if you are doing that, I would recommend it. I found “Simple
> ELAN” pretty much useless, so don’t bother with that.
>
> -Alex
>
>
> > On 12 Dec, 2018, at 13:28, Kelly McCormick <kelly.mccorm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > +1 ELAN has worked well for transcription&gesture coding with all manner
> of export formats for time analysis etc.
> >
> > KMc
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:06 AM Teruko Vida Mitsuhara <
> tmitsuhara at ucla.edu <mailto:tmitsuhara at ucla.edu>> wrote:
> > I've used ELAN for all my multilingual audio and video data. It's open
> source and the standard tool for the MPI.
> >
> > Best,
> > Teruko
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:47 AM Conley Riner, Robin <
> conleyr at marshall.edu <mailto:conleyr at marshall.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Forgive me if this has been answered on this listserv in the past, but
> do people have recommendations for qualitative coding software that works
> well with linguistic data, especially video recorded interaction?
> >
> > Thanks so much,
> > Robin
> >
> > Robin Conley Riner, PhD
> > Associate Professor of Anthropology
> > Department of Sociology & Anthropology
> >  Marshall University
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> From: Janina Fenigsen <jfenigsen at gmail.com>
> To: "Riner, Robin" <conleyr at marshall.edu>
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> It would be good to put it all up on the SLA website, I think
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> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:46 AM Conley Riner, Robin <conleyr at marshall.edu
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > Forgive me if this has been answered on this listserv in the past, but do
> > people have recommendations for qualitative coding software that works
> well
> > with linguistic data, especially video recorded interaction?
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much,
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >
> > *Robin Conley Riner, PhD*
> > ------------------------------
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> > Department of Sociology & Anthropology
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> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 20:04:25 +0000
> From: "Graber, Kathryn E." <graberk at indiana.edu>
> To: "Riner, Robin" <conleyr at marshall.edu>
> Cc: LINGANTH <LINGANTH at listserv.linguistlist.org>, Janina Fenigsen
>         <jfenigsen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Linganth] qualitative coding software
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> Hi Robin!, et al.,
>
>
> I run the Qualitative Data Analysis Lab at Indiana University (
> http://www.iu.edu/~quallab.html)<http://www.iu.edu/~quallab/resources.html>,
> which emphasizes ling anth equipment by virtue of my own research, although
> I try to listen to what my colleagues in sociology, ethnomusicology, etc.
> need too. We run Atlas.ti, NVivo, and MAXQDA, as well as free options like
> ELAN. Dedoose is also worth checking out if you haven't yet. Recently I got
> a small grant to train a grad student and develop a university-internal
> seminar directly comparing QDA packages with a common data set, basically
> to answer your question because it is asked all the time by our lab users.
> I'll see if the two speakers are OK with sharing their materials with this
> listserv. But meanwhile, here is what the three of us--from qualitative
> sociology, sociocultural anth, and ling anth--concluded based on our prep
> for that workshop:
>
>
> What all robust QDA software packages have in common is that they have
> steep learning curves. I think Alex has already alluded to this. It is
> largely due to their terminological differences: each package has its own
> meta-language for coding and querying data. E.g., what's called a "case" in
> one is a "code" in another, words like "attribute" and "node" are entirely
> program-specific, and even the words "code" and "query" do not denote the
> same functions across packages. It is also due to the fact that they are
> huge, powerful programs at this point in their development, with
> capabilities well beyond what any one individual researcher probably needs
> for any one individual project. Learning one is a time commitment, but it
> pays off over the years, if not months.
>
>
> The other thing that they share--and here I'm talking specifically about
> Atlas.ti, NVivo, and MAXQDA--is their basic capabilities. Really. They will
> all let you associate some codes of your own making with textual, audio,
> and visual material, and they will all let you query that basic metadata in
> ways robust enough to reach well beyond what any human brain can
> simultaneously hold in it. They all handle the same basic file types. They
> all have a range of data export options. They are all currently developing
> their capacities for integrating social media data. There used to be much
> more difference between the competing QDA packages, even a few years ago
> when I founded the lab and a grad student assistant and I selected these 3
> from among the wider field, but they have been converging in their basic
> capabilities and even in their visual layout.
>
>
> What are their particular strengths and weaknesses? They were developed on
> different starting platforms, so even as they have converged on the surface
> over the years, they have weird deep-level differences. The way they store
> your primary data and metadata is completely different, for instance
> (inside vs. outside the program, in temp files on your hard drive, etc.).
> We concluded that NVivo is better for sharing data in a team. Atlas.ti is
> better at moving between computers and is more flexible in some other ways
> too, though their most recent release has some hiccups. MAXQDA was
> developed for Mac and remains the strongest option for Mac users. NVivo
> continues to have some problems if you move between Mac and PC, but their
> Mac option has improved dramatically with the latest release. Personally, I
> have been using NVivo for PC  since 2008 and still prefer it, but partly
> that's because I know it by now. I used to prefer NVivo for its
> transcription feature, and for the fact that it handled non-Latin scripts
> and IPA when the other packages couldn't. It also used to be better with
> PDFs, of which I had a ton in my media-rich research. At this point,
> however, Atlas.ti and MAXQDA can do all of those things. MAXQDA in
> particular is stronger on data visualization options, and the grad student
> assistant who just trained on all three programs found this one by far the
> most intuitive. That's not nothing, especially if you'd like a research
> assistant to get up and running quickly. For transcription, the crucial
> question is whether you have external transcripts that you would like to
> link to your audiovisual material inside the program or would prefer to
> have a single platform in which you do all of your transcribing and coding
> simultaneously. Atlas.ti is pretty terrible for in-house transcription,
> compared to the other options; most researchers who use Atlas.ti (and there
> are a lot of them at IU, because they have better student licenses and it
> is popular with sociologists) seem to transcribe in Word or ExpressScribe
> Pro and then dump their files into the QDA program. The better onboard
> transcription features of MAXQDA are compelling--this is currently the best
> program for transcribing inside of the program--and if I were starting out
> with QDA software right now, I think I'd go with MAXQDA. I still think
> NVivo wins when it comes to coding directly inside audio and video files
> though, because it directly links those codes in the recordings to the same
> spots in your transcript automatically. Moreover, you can code specific
> areas of photos and videos, which would be useful for coding
> gestures--although, come to think of it, I have never tried doing that in
> Atlas.ti or MAXQDA, so that might not be peculiar to NVivo. ELAN is still
> far and away the best option for the money! And it's best for subtitling.
> But, it requires a little more patience and tech-savvy, and it is more
> narrowly suited to ling data, when compared to full QDA packages.
>
>
> So that we don't reinvent the wheel here, the U of Surrey has put together
> this great resource comparing current QDA packages in general--including
> several I haven't mentioned:
>
> https://www.surrey.ac.uk/computer-assisted-qualitative-data-analysis
>
>
> Upshot: Because they all have steep learning curves, I would strongly
> recommend trying out multiple options, if possible, to see what's most
> intuitive to you and will meet your own project needs. Unfortunately the
> trial versions are rarely as robust as the full versions--but you can at
> least get a sense of which layout and which of the basic features are more
> intuitive and useful to you. Specifically for coding gestures or stretches
> of talk in video-recorded interaction, I would recommend NVivo, versions
> 9-11, or ELAN+, and would also give MAXQDA a close look.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Kate
>
>
> Kathryn E. Graber
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology &
> Department of Central Eurasian Studies
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> From: Linganth <linganth-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Janina Fenigsen <jfenigsen at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 13:38
> To: Riner, Robin
> Cc: LINGANTH
> Subject: Re: [Linganth] qualitative coding software
>
> It would be good to put it all up on the SLA website, I think
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:46 AM Conley Riner, Robin <conleyr at marshall.edu
> <mailto:conleyr at marshall.edu>> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> Forgive me if this has been answered on this listserv in the past, but do
> people have recommendations for qualitative coding software that works well
> with linguistic data, especially video recorded interaction?
>
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Robin
>
>
> Robin Conley Riner, PhD
> ________________________________
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> Department of Sociology & Anthropology
> Marshall University
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> Huntington, WV 25755-2678
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