Volitional patients
Jóhanna Barðdal
johanna.barddal at NOR.UIB.NO
Thu Mar 23 11:21:42 UTC 2006
This last discussion shows that notions of themtic/semantic roles are highly
problematic, and as I argued both in my dissertation on case in Icelandic (which
Ashild cited) and in a 2004 paper on the semantics of the "oblique" subject
construction in Icelandic, German and Faroese, they should be dispensed with
from linguistic theory.
References:
Barðdal, Jóhanna. 2001. Case in Icelandic A Synchronic, Diachronic and
Comparative Approach. Lundastudier i Nordisk språkvetenskap A 57. Lund:
Department of Scandinavian Languages.
Barðdal, Jóhanna. 2004. The Semantics of the Impersonal Construction in
Icelandic, German and Faroese: Beyond Thematic Roles. In Focus on Germanic
Typology [Studia Typologica 6], 10537. Ed. Werner Abraham. Berlin: Akademie
Verlag.
J.
> ashild.nass at ILN.UIO.NO den torsdag 23. marts 2006 kl. 09:00 +0100 skrev:
> >Dear typologists,
> >
> >Richard Madsen's comment asking whether the dative-marked object in my
> >Icelandic examples shouldn't rather be considered a beneficiary got me
> >thinking. Volitional patients are in fact semantically very close to
> >other types of participants such as recipients or beneficiaries. The
> >latter are also volitional or at least sentient - you have to be
> >sentient in order to be plausibly said to benefit from something - and
> >they receive an effect of the action. Also, the idea of volitionally
> >submitting to having something done to you strongly suggests a
> >beneficial effect (or, alternatively, masochism, a property which I
> >don't think anyone has ever suggested we should expect to find encoded
> >in language). So maybe one could say that the default interpretation of
> >a volitional patient is as a beneficiary. Conversely, isn't a
> >beneficiary to a certain extent a kind of volitional patient?
>
> I'd say beneficiary can be volitional patient, but doesn't have to be. In
> "Peter scrathed Tom's back (because it was itching)" Tom is both patient
> and beneficiary. But in "Peter repaired Tom's glasses" Tom is only
> beneficiary, the patient is his glasses.
>
> > Can you be
> >said to benefit from something which you don't really want? It may be
> >possible, but certainly not the prototypical interpretation of a
> >beneficiary.
>
> I think a more precise criterion for being beneficiary would be that one
> accepts the action done and its outcome. What I have in mind is that the
> putative beneficiary doesn't have to want the action explicitly and in
> advance (i.e. before the action for him or her is started), he or she may
> not even be aware of being in need for something. But he or she has to
> accept the action and its outcome as something that is beneficial for him
> or her.
> >
> >
> >What I'm saying is, maybe the reason why a distinct formal encoding of
> >volitional patients appears to be rare, or at least rarely described as
> >such, is either or both of these: 1) they're semantically so close to
> >other, more generally familiar types such as beneficiaries that
> >linguists have described them in the latter terms; 2) because of the
> >same semantic similarity, *languages* treat these types in the same way.
> >
> >Thanks to Richard, and to everyone else who replied.
> >
> >Regards,
>
> Richard
> >
> >
>
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Jóhanna Barðdal
Postdoctoral Research Fellow
Coordinator of the Ph.D. Research School in Linguistics and Philology
Department of Linguistics and Comparative Literature, Linguistics Division
University of Bergen
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