query: grammaticalization go/be.in > negation
DEVERETT at BENTLEY.EDU
Thu Jan 31 12:16:48 UTC 2013
In Pirahã, David, the relevant construction is:
it-negative-completive-perfective-remote (out of control of speaker)
hi-ab-a (without aspectual morphology) is used for 'no' or 'didn't'
The former has the sense of 'to have run out' but is very similar in many contexts to 'allgone.'
On Jan 31, 2013, at 6:53 AM, Hewitt, Stephen wrote:
> Hello David,
> In Breton, yes.
> Aed eo toud
> Gone is3sg all
> "it's all gone"
> With the same meaning as in English. In French you have to use the verb "partir" = leave, not "aller" = go.
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> Dear all,
> In English motherese, the expression 'allgone' is often used to express a negative concept involving the disappearance or absence of an entity previously present.
> I am interested in ascertaining how common or rare it is, cross-linguistically, for a verb of motion (eg. 'go') or location (eg.
> 'be in') to undergo extension of meaning, or grammaticalization, to express various negative concepts, as in the above 'allgone' example.
> The reason behind this query is as follows. In Roon (an Austronesian language of West Papua), the same verb has a range of meanings which includes 'be in' and 'disappear'. (The logic behind this would seem to be that if something goes or is located somewhere else, then it is no
> longer here.) In addition, the stem on which this verb is based is
> also used to form negative imperatives. I am currently trying to figure out whether to analyze this in terms of macrofunctionality, polysemy, or accidental homophony, so whether similar patterns are attested cross-linguistically would be of relevance to the choice of analysis.
> Looking forward to any responses,
> David Gil
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