[Lingtyp] history of linguistics: phonological word

Tue Jan 22 05:54:30 UTC 2019

Correction: *Agard 1958*, not 1945 (checked de visu).

Agard, Frederick B. "Structural Sketch of Rumanian." *Language *34, no. 3
(1958): 7-127. doi:10.2307/522282.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 8:44 PM Bohnemeyer, Juergen <jb77 at buffalo.edu>
wrote:

> Harald Hammarström’s post gave me the idea of trying Google Ngram Viewer,
> which allows one to track down the earliest uses of a phrase in Google
> Docs. I found this definition in Nida (1946: 13):
>
> "In describing some syntactic unit it is convenient to designate the
> combination of word plus clitic element as consisting of a ‘phonological
> word’.”
>
> Nida, E. A. (1946). Syntax, a descriptive analysis. SIL.
>
> However, Google Docs also contains two 1945 uses, one of which I was able
> to track down:
>
> Agard, A. F. (1945). Structural sketch of Rumanian. Language 34(3 Part 2):
> 7-127.
>
> "The phonological word is defined as a free, meaningful linear stretch
> containing one strong-stressed syllable with or without one or more
> weak-stressed syllables before or after it, provided no one of those weak
> syllables is itself free to be uttered (with strong stress) in isolation.”
>
> The other 1945 hit appears to be in the journal Word, Volumes 38-39,
> pp87-88, 223. Google Docs does not provide any further information and my
> university’s library does not have digital holdings of this journal.
>
> Best — Juergen
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Alexander B. <synru11 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hocket 1949 was published in SIL 7.29-51 (1949).
> >
> > Eunice Pike (e.g. in Pike 1951, originally presented at the LSA summer
> meeting in 1950) writes that
> >
> > "A word, which may include one or more proclitics, is phonologically
> determined; it carries only one high stress and is constituted phonetically
> of a stress group (possibly a rhythm unit or ABDOMINAL PULSE) ft.5; it is
> the minimal unit which may occur in isolation; following any word, given
> proper context, there is potentiality for pause. The word begins on any
> syllable which immediately follows an intoneme-carrying syllable. Between
> words a space is written to symbolize their borders" (p. 38).
> >
> > https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/464098
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bohnemeyer, Juergen <jb77 at buffalo.edu>
> wrote:
> > I was also thinking Pike. Turns out I was wrong. Pike (1952: 110) cites
> a definition of the term by Hockett:
> >
> > Kenneth L. Pike (1952) More on Grammatical Prerequisites, WORD, 8:2,
> 106-121, DOI: 10.1080/00437956.1952.11659425
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/ycm8nntc
> >
> > Unfortunately, I’m not able make sense of the system Pike uses for
> attribution in that article, so I can’t say what paper of Hockett’s he’s
> citing ;-) I’m sure we have people on this list who have some familiarity
> with structuralist era citation conventions…
> >
> > Note also that Hockett’s definition is super-simple and super-general
> and doesn’t necessarily capture what I was taught to think of as the
> essence of the phonological word, namely, that it encompasses clitics and
> their hosts:
> >
> > > But it is also possible to define a PHONOLOGICAL WORD: any stretch of
> phonemes which occurs as a whole utterance, and which cannot be broken into
> two or more shorter stretches which also so occur, quite regardless of
> meanings.
> >
> > This seems to presuppose a very technical definition of ‘utterance’ that
> isn’t immediately obvious to me.
> >
> > I think what we’re seeing here may be an example of a more general
> phenomenon of terminological evolution: terms (labels) and concepts travel
> somewhat independently through time, bump into one another at certain
> points in time, stick together for a while, and then possibly break up
> again.
> >
> > Best — Juergen
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 21, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Larry M. HYMAN <hyman at berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure if everyone was similarly influenced, but this confirms my
> belief that Kenneth Pike either originated or was the most consistent
> proponent not only of the phonological word but of the phonological
> hierarchy subsequently adopted by others. See for example the following
> article which focuses on the phonological word in Otomí. Although later
> than those cited by Matthew (1968) refers back to Pike in footnote 3 (p.77):
> > >
> > > "The hierarchical concept untilized in the present discussion is based
> upon Kenneth Pike's theory (1954-60)."
> > >
> > > Wallis, Ethel E. 1968. The word and the phonological hierarchy of
> Mezquital Otomí. Language 44.76-90.
> > >
> > > Pike, Kenneth L. 1954 (vol. 1), 1955 (vol.2), 1960 (vol.3). Language
> in relation to a unified theory of the structure of human behavior
> Glendale: Summer Institute of Linguistics.
> > >
> > > I haven't gone back to check these works (or the Mouton book that came
> out a little later), but I suspect the winning lower bid is 1954, at least
> thus far.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:47 AM Dryer, Matthew <dryer at buffalo.edu>
> wrote:
> > > The three earliest uses of the expression phonological word that I am
> aware of are in
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Healey, Alan. (1964) The Ok Language Family in New Guinea. Australian
> National University doctoral dissertation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > “There is a close, but > > not perfect, correlation between the
> phonological and grammatical word.”
> > >
> > > (Miller, Wick R. (1965) Acoma grammar and texts (University of
> California Publications in Linguistics 40). Berkeley and Los Angeles:
> University of California Press.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > “The phonological word has a stronger decrescendo of speed and
> intensity, and sometimes of pitch than does the stress group. In slow
> speech the phonological word usually corresponds with a grammatical word so
> that their decrescendos overlap, but in fast speech several stress groups
> with their included, mild decrescendos”
> > >
> > > (Eastman, Elizabeth & Robert Eastman. (1963) Iquito syntax. In Studies
> in Peruvian Indian Languages 1, 145-192. Summer Institute of Linguistics.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Matthew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf
> of TasakuTsunoda <tasakutsunoda at nifty.com>
> > > Date: Monday, January 21, 2019 at 2:11 AM
> > > To: Adam James Ross Tallman <ajrtallman at utexas.edu>, "
> LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org" <LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] history of linguistics: phonological word
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Adam,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     Please see the following book:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         Lyons, John. 1968. Introduction to theoretical linguistics.
> Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pp68-70 have the following subsection:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         2.2.11 Grammatical and phonological words
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tasaku Tsunoda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 送信元: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> (Adam James
> Ross Tallman <ajrtallman at utexas.edu> の代理)
> > > 日付: 2019年1月20日日曜日 7:44
> > > 宛先: <LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > > 件名: [Lingtyp] history of linguistics: phonological word
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm trying to trace the roots of the development of the concept of
> "phonological word". Does anyone know who first used this term? The
> earliest I can find is Dixon's (1977) grammar of Yidin. What about
> "prosodic word"?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm aware that the roots of the idea can be found much earlier than
> when the concept was first mentioned, but I'm interested in the implicit
> analogy between a morphosyntactic constituency and phonological
> constituency and how, when and why that entered linguistics.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
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