[Lingtyp] The (ab)use of the term "theory" in (generative) linguistics

TALLMAN Adam Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr
Tue Feb 11 13:38:41 UTC 2020


Dear Bernat

Which generativist case theory actually contains a "set of tested explanations"? How are "tested explanations" different from "predictions"?

A.





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Objet : Re: [Lingtyp] The (ab)use of the term "theory" in (generative) linguistics

There is another sense of theory, that I have not yet seen discussed here, which corresponds to the shall we say technical sense of the word, with a meaning of "a set of tested explanations of a phenomenon" (as in the film title A Theory of Everything). The word is used quite a bit in that sense in the (transformational) generative framework, and that gives us things like case theory, or how someone might propose their theory of inverse agreement in language L. I wouldn't call that an abuse.

Bernat

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On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 6:38 AM Eitan Grossman <eitan.grossman at mail.huji.ac.il<mailto:eitan.grossman at mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
Hi all,

In oral comments and reviews, I encounter two main uses of "theory" and "theoretical." One is simply an autonym of generative linguists, as in "John only hangs out with theoretical linguists" or "Mary does great fieldwork but we want to hire a theoretician."
You might also encounter something along the lines of "This abstract makes some very interesting observations but does not reference the theoretical literature, and it is unclear how it relates to theory."

The other use is something like "having a point (beyond describing facts)" or "referencing general linguistic literature."

But in my experience, the first is by far the most common.

Eitan


בתאריך יום ג׳, 11 בפבר׳ 2020, 12:16, מאת paolo Ramat ‏<paolo.ramat at unipv.it<mailto:paolo.ramat at unipv.it>>:
Hi everyone,
Martin H. has written that  <<there is confusion also about ]...] the relation between "typology" and "theory">>. I fully agree. But Martin says further that <<the term "theory" can be used as a count noun , or as a mass noun ("linguistic theory", "grammatical theory">>. This sounds rather strange: I had always thought that mass nouns are nouns such as 'sugar', 'blood', 'sand' etc. Can we consider abstract nouns like 'philosophy','theology' or even 'democracy'  as mass nouns? Let alone by adding an adjective as in "linguistic/grammatic theory". This is not the habitual use of the term and sounds confusing.
Paolo


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Il giorno mar 11 feb 2020 alle ore 10:47 Haspelmath, Martin <haspelmath at shh.mpg.de<mailto:haspelmath at shh.mpg.de>> ha scritto:
I would talk about "confusion", not about "abuse", because there are many different kinds of linguistic theories. Moreover, the term "theory" can be used as a count noun (as in the last sentence), or as a mass noun ("linguistic theory", "grammatical theory"). Linguists rarely reflect on kinds of theories, or on kinds of senses of the word "theory", and the papers that Hartmut mentioned have not become well-known. So there is a lot of confusion.

In my 2010 paper on "Framework-free grammatical theory" (https://zenodo.org/record/814947), I distinguished four senses of "theory".

But there is confusion also about the relation between "typology" and "theory": Quite a few people have contrasted them as if they were different ways of doing linguistics, or different parts of research, e.g.

Hengeveld, Kees. 1992. Non-verbal predication: Theory, typology, diachrony. Berlin: Mouton de Gruyter.
Polinsky, Maria & Robert Kluender. 2007. Linguistic typology and theory construction: Common challenges ahead. Linguistic Typology 11(1). 273–283.
Van Langendonck, Willy. 2008. Theory and typology of proper names. Berlin: De Gruyter Mouton.

But on the other hand, it is clear that "atheoretical typology" is impossible, so this usage is confusing. See this recent blogpost, which proposes an alternative: https://dlc.hypotheses.org/1915

Martin


On 11.02.20 10:18, Hartmut Haberland wrote:
Jün-Tin Wang 1973. ”On the representation of generative grammars as first-order theories.” In: Radu J. Bogdan and Ilkka Niinilouto eds. Logic, Language and Probability. Dordrecht: Reidel, 302-316
Hans-Heinrich Lieb 1974. "Grammars as theories: The case for axiomatic grammar (Part I)". Theoretical Linguistics 1: 39-115.
Hans-Heinrich Lieb 1976. "Grammars as theories: The case for axiomatic grammar (Part II)". Theoretical Linguistics 3: 1-98.


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Sendt: 11. februar 2020 09:33
Til: TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr><mailto:Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>
Emne: Re: [Lingtyp] The (ab)use of the term "theory" in (generative) linguistics

Hans-Heinrich Lieb has written extensively about this in the 70s, also Jün-tin Wang. Hartmut

Den 11. feb. 2020 kl. 07.12 skrev TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr<mailto:Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>>:
Hello all,

Does anyone have any sources that discuss the abuse of the term "theory" in generative linguistics (or in linguistics generally)? I figure that a paper like this must exist given the deeply insightful comments that I have received by some reviewers.

best,

Adam





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