[Lingtyp] Lingtyp Digest, Vol 70, Issue 19

Tue Jul 21 15:55:57 UTC 2020

To add to David's typology, Pitta-Pitta and Paakintyi (both Pama-Nyungan
languages) inflect nominal items according to the tense of the verb. For
Paakintyi, the primary tense exponent is on pronominal arguments; for
Pitta-Pitta
<https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0726860042000271816?casa_token=3i1LbzOgZT4AAAAA:lp_AT7HbG5K1Yl1DBZwM7LjDkO4XHX8NsG1B_i0fjmU3tuY3NvndotgcqQ9eC1N-_i8zNBXXqtz6vg>,
case marking works in conjunction with verbal marking to signal tense
distinctions.
Claire

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:45 AM David Beck <dbeck at ualberta.ca> wrote:

> Hi, Ian
>
> Salishan and Wakashan languages are well-known for this, particularly in
> regards to the use of person-indexes and tense/mood markers on non-verbal
> predicates, and the appearance of tense and mood like morphemes attached to
> nouns in other syntactic roles. This is also seen in the neighbouring
> Tsimshianic and Chimakuan languages, making it an areal pattern.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
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> >   1. Re: Verb-like nominal inflection (Johanna Laakso)
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> > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:28:32 +0200
> > From: Johanna Laakso <johanna.laakso at univie.ac.at>
> > To: "Joo, Ian" <joo at shh.mpg.de>
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> > Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Verb-like nominal inflection
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> > Dear Ian, dear all,
> >
> > verb-like inflection (tense and person marking) of nominal predicates is
> a well-known phenomenon in two (sub)branches of Uralic, Mordvin
> (Erzya/Moksha) and Samoyedic.
> >
> > See Rigina Turunen’s (now: Ajanki) PhD thesis on nonverbal predication
> in Erzya (http://urn.fi/URN:ISBN:978-952-10-6277-3 <
> http://urn.fi/URN:ISBN:978-952-10-6277-3>) and Lotta Jalava's PhD thesis
> which touches upon the issue of nonverbal predication in Samoyedic (
> http://urn.fi/URN:ISBN:978-951-51-1314-6 <
> http://urn.fi/URN:ISBN:978-951-51-1314-6> ), both with numerous further
> references. For Samoyedic, see also Wagner-Nagy & Viola 2009 (
> https://www.sgr.fi/en/items/show/1009 <
> https://www.sgr.fi/en/items/show/1009> ).
> >
> > Best
> > jl
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> > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:36:41 +0300
> > From: David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
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> > Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Verb-like nominal inflection
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> > Ian,
> >
> > As stated, your query is probably too broad and needs to be narrowed
> > down somewhat.  Off the top of my head I can think of several examples
> > where "nouns can be inflected like verbs", but none of them are much
> > like each other or like Galela.
> >
> > 1. In Hebrew, the present tense of the verb, historically a participial
> > form, agrees with its subject in number and gender using precisely the
> > same forms, e.g.
> >
> > Hayeladim oxlim
> > DEF:child:PLM eat:PRS:PLM
> >
> > where the PLM suffix is -im for both noun and verb.
> >
> > 2. In Indonesian, reduplication marks plurality on both nouns and verbs
> > (where for verbs it can be interpreted either as iterativity or as
> > marking the plurality of an associated argument).
> >
> > 3. In Roon (SHWNG, Austronesian), nouns and verbs are indexed for
> > person, number and animacy using the exact same markers, the only
> > difference being that for nouns, the index occurs on an enclitic article
> > =ya whereas for verbs it occurs on the verb stem itself, e.g.
> >
> > Bunmuya mura
> > woman:2DU:DEF 2DU:go
> > 'You two women are going'
> >
> > where it's the same 2nd person dual prefix mu- marking both the article
> > -ya and the verb -ra.  (Note that this is not a case of agreement, as in
> > the Hebrew above, because in Roon, the subject and the verb don't have
> > to agree.)
> >
> > But you probably mean something more specific than this, I'm guessing ...
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On 21/07/2020 18:10, Joo, Ian wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> In Galela (West Papuan), nouns can be inflected like verbs, as
> >> illustrated below:
> >>
> >> I would like to know if this is a cross-linguistically common
> >> phenomenon, and if so, what other languages show similar patterns.
> >>
> >> From Hong Kong,
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
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