[Lingtyp] Verb-like nominal inflection

Seino van Breugel seinobreugel at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 10:41:19 UTC 2020

Dear Ian,

Atong, a Tibeto-Burman language of Northeast India and Bangladesh has
nominal predicates (or verb-like inflection of nouns).
Depending on their denotation, the nouns can take more or less predicative
Sometimes, predicative morphology is used to make nouns more verb-like, so
that they can function as a  predicate head.
This is all treated in detail in: Breugel, Seino van. *A Grammar of Atong*.
Leiden, Boston: Brill.


Dr. Seino van Breugel
Assistant Professor
United International College, Zhuhai, China

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:20 AM NAM Deokhyun <devon_coast373 at toki.waseda.jp>

> Dear Ian and all,
> Isn't it possible to interpret that yo- in Ian's example of Galela is used
> either as an S/A bound pronoun or as a possessor bound pronoun? In Ainu as
> well, for example, S/A bound pronouns and possessor bound pronouns have an
> identical paradigm:
> k-ek (1SG-come) 'I come'
> k-aki (1SG-younger brother) 'my younger brother'
> e-ek (2SG-come) 'you come'
> e-aki (2SG-younger brother) 'your younger brother'
> Other languages in which a (partially or wholly) identical paradigm is
> used for S/A bound pronouns and possessor bound pronouns are discussed in
> Dixon(Basic Linguistic Theory vol.2, 2010, Oxford University Press)'s
> chapter on possession, according to which it seems to be a
> cross-linguistically common phenomenon.
> So, it seems to me that the syncretism may lie in bound pronouns rather
> than in words in such cases (their meanings are distinct: subject (or
> object) and possessor, if they have an identical form).
> A recent discussion about the class flexibility of noun and verb is found
> in "Morphology in Typology" by Johanna Nichols (In: The Cambridge Handbook
> of Morphology, 2016, Cambridge University Press, 710-742), with a lot of
> references.
> Best,
> Deokhyun
> 2020年7月22日(水) 6:07 David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>:
>> I'm glad Mark brought the parts of speech question up.
>> There's no good reason to believe that *bahasa*, a loan into Galela from
>> the local Ternate dialect of Malay, is particularly nouny in its
>> (immediate) source language either.  I just looked through our large
>> Ternate Malay corpus (compiled by Betty Litamahuputty and freely accessible
>> online), and if you insist on distinguishing nouns from verbs in Ternate
>> Malay, well there are some examples of *bahasa *that look nouny but
>> others that look verby, such as the following:
>> kong de bahasa Tidore kong de mangamuk
>> CONJ 3SG language Tidore CONJ 3SG ACT:amok
>> 'She speaks Tidore and goes amok'
>> In other examples, bahasa may occur with the "medial verbal" prefix
>> *ber-* and with the reciprocal marker *baku*.
>> David
>> On 21/07/2020 23:46, Mark Donohue wrote:
>> Why do we think that *bahasa* and *bobapo*, in Galela, are nouns?
>> Based on the evidence, they're not.
>> (Not saying that they're verbs, just that, if nouns are "things that
>> don't behave like verbs", as is implied in the question, then *bahasa*
>>  and *bobapo* aren't nouns, in Galela.
>> -Mark
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 01:10, Joo, Ian <joo at shh.mpg.de> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> In Galela (West Papuan), nouns can be inflected like verbs, as
>>> illustrated below:
>>> I would like to know if this is a cross-linguistically common
>>> phenomenon, and if so, what other languages show similar patterns.
>>> From Hong Kong,
>>> Ian
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Lingtyp mailing list
>>> Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
>>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lingtyp mailing listLingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.orghttp://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
>> --
>> David Gil
>> Senior Scientist (Associate)
>> Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
>> Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
>> Kahlaische Strasse 10, 07745 Jena, Germany
>> Email: gil at shh.mpg.de
>> Mobile Phone (Israel): +972-556825895
>> Mobile Phone (Indonesia): +62-81344082091
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lingtyp mailing list
>> Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
> _______________________________________________
> Lingtyp mailing list
> Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20200723/8843369f/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 115635 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20200723/8843369f/attachment.png>

More information about the Lingtyp mailing list