[Lingtyp] Query: syllable-reversing ludlings
David Gil
gil at shh.mpg.de
Sun May 17 16:03:04 UTC 2020
Dear all,
Ludlings (aka play languages or secret languages) are often constructed
by reversing the order of syllables in a word.Using numerals to denote
syllables, 12 > 21.But what happens when there are three (or more)
syllables in the word?For tri-syllabic words, the two most common
outcomes are
(a) 123 > 312
(b) 123 > 231
The Riau Indonesian ludling I have written about has the (a) pattern,
eg. /bahasa > sabaha/. But a friend of mine in Papua has recently
started writing to me in a ludling using the (b) pattern, e.g. /bahasa >
hasaba/.Which got me curious.According to Wikipedia, the French ludling
/verlan/ may use either option, e.g. /cigarette/ > /restiga/ or /garetsi/.
I would appreciate any information you might be able to provide with
regard to syllable-reversing ludlings of this kind that you might be
familiar with in other languages.Specifically, I would like to know:
(1) which pattern is followed in tri-syllabic words: (a), (b), or
perhaps other?
(2) what is the location of word-stress in the language?
The motivation behind the second question is that I have a hunch that
the difference between the ludlings in closely related Riau Indonesian
and Papuan Malay might be due to their different stress patterns — a
hypothesis that is easily tested by looking at a handful of other languages.
Thanks,
David
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David Gil
Senior Scientist (Associate)
Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
Kahlaische Strasse 10, 07745 Jena, Germany
Email: gil at shh.mpg.de
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