[Lingtyp] Language change and foot structure

[Guillaume Jacques]

Dear Randy and David,

In the particular case of Trans-Himalayan/Sino-Tibetan, iambic stress
patterns are found in several disconnected zones, and not exclusively in
the south. It is attested in particular in some prefixing Kiranti languages
(such as Khaling and Limbu), and in Gyalrongic languages, where an
influence from Austro-asiatic is not possible (see Lai 2021 on the
development of the prefixal chain in Khroskyabs). In addition, Baxter and
Sagart (2014) argue, using evidence from loanwords into Vietic and Lakkia,
that Old Chinese (the northernmost TH language) had presyllables (with an
iambic stress pattern) until the Han dynasty.

Guillaume

References
Baxter, William H. III & Laurent Sagart. 2014. Old Chinese: A new
reconstruction. Oxford: Oxford University Press
Lai, Yunfan. "Betrayal through obedience: on the history of the unusual
inflectional chain in Siyuewu Khroskyabs: " *Linguistic Typology*, vol. 25,
no. 1, 2020, pp. 79-122. https://doi.org/10.1515/lingty-2021-2075

Le jeu. 19 août 2021 à 04:06, Randy J. LaPolla <randy.lapolla at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Hi Matt,
> Similar to what David mentions, although it isn’t a single language,
> within Sino-Tibetan there is a similar geographic difference, with northern
> languages tending towards trochaic and southern languages tending towards
> iambic, which we assume was due to influence from the Austro-Asiatic
> languages in the south.
>
> Randy
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> On 18 Aug 2021, at 6:52 PM, David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de> wrote:
>
> Dear Matt,
>
> In colloquial Malay/Indonesian, some dialects are iambic while others are
> trochaic; with just a few exceptions this follows a geographical pattern,
> with final stress to the west, penultimate stress to the east.  So
> presumably the kind of shift you are looking for must have taken place
> here, in the course of the diversification of Malay/Indonesian dialects.
>
> As for the directionality of the shift: given that Malay originated in the
> western part of the archipelago, where foot structure is iambic, one might
> speculate that this was the original pattern, and that as the language
> spread eastwards, some varieties switched to trochaic, most likely under
> the influence of the local substrate languages, many of which have trochaic
> structure.
>
> David
>
>
> On 17/08/2021 22:07, Matthew Windsor wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Is anyone aware of a language where metrical/rhythmic structure has
> clearly shifted from having right-headed (iambic) feet to left-headed
> (trochaic) feet or vice versa? I’m studying a language variety where this
> seems to be the case. It’s a quantity-sensitive system, so the change
> mainly affects strings of light syllables. Any examples or suggested
> resources would be helpful, thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
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