[Lingtyp] Truth markers

[Guillaume Jacques]

Dear Mira,

Another type of semantic shift related to truth markers is "be true" ->
"copula", found in Burmo-Rgyalrongic languages (Japhug ŋu "copula", related
to Tibetan ŋo.bo <http://xn--o-vla.bo> "true nature" and other related
forms), see Jacques and Pellard (2021:16).

Best wishes,

Guillaume

Reference
Jacques,  Guillaume and Thomas Pellard. 2021. Phylogenies based on lexical
innovations refute the Rung hypothesis. Diachronica, 38 (1), pp.1-24.
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-03084829

Le jeu. 21 oct. 2021 à 19:31, Mira Ariel <mariel at tauex.tau.ac.il> a écrit :

> Thanks, everyone!
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> We know of the truth> intensifier evolution. I just had a paper on that in *Studies
> in Lg * (Bardenstein and Ariel).
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> We argue there that you don't actually have a truth marker evolving
> directly to an intensifier, but rather, through an intermediate stage of
> what we call 'counter-loosening'. This seems to be the referential marking
> that Adam is talking about (by the way, reduplication as 'real' can be seen
> in 'salad salad').
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> And yes, 'true' is tricky to define. We take is as something like
> 'corresponding to the relevant state of affairs', our point being that for
> the most part speakers actually mobilize this marker for OTHER discourse
> purposes (unexpectedness, agreement and more).
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> What we're hoping to find is whether there is a typological study
> dedicated to truth markers out there. We'd like to know how prevalent it is
> in the world's languages.
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> Thanks!
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> *From:* Adam James Ross Tallman [mailto:ajrtallman at utexas.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:01 AM
> *To:* LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG; Mira Ariel <
> mariel at tauex.tau.ac.il>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Truth markers
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> Hey Mira,
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> Are you looking for referential modifiers or truth marking that scopes
> over predicates / whole propositions?
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> For nouns / referential expressions in Chacobo
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> "veridative" is marked through reduplication + -ria. For instance, *honi *'man'
> vs. *honi honi-ria *'real man' which could be used to emphasize the
> man-like properties of a person. *-ria *is a 'simulative', that by itself
> marks that something is similar to N... I don't think nominal reduplication
> occurs outside of this context.
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> For propositions, the expression *jabija *[haβiha] 'true', is the closest
> I can think of. It is *haβi *'custom, tradition, surely, obviously' with
> (probably) *ha(a) *'yes'...
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> But what is the main semantic test for knowing that something is a 'truth
> marker'? There are surely overlapping contexts here, but what 'true' even
> means seems like a very complicated ethnographic question ...
>
> best,
>
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> Adam
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> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:00 AM Mira Ariel <mariel at tauex.tau.ac.il> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> My student, Shirly Orr, and I are interested in truth markers, such as
> *true*, *real, right*.
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> Are they frequently attested in natural languages?
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> We're interested in etymological sources for them, as well as meanings
> they evolve to express.
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> Any leads on literature we can dig up?
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> Thanks,
>
> Mira Ariel
>
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> Adam J.R. Tallman
>
> Post-doctoral Researcher
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> Friedrich Schiller Universität
>
> Department of English Studies
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Guillaume Jacques

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