[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Fariba Sabouri
faribasabouri at gmail.com
Sat Mar 12 18:09:07 UTC 2022
Dear All,
In Hamedani Persian (a dialect spoken in Hamedan, western Iran), the sound
of coughing is /koxe kox/, while the verb for coughing is 'koxe zadan' 'to
cough'. The sound is a reduplicated word whose parts do not occur on their
own.
Best,
Fariba
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> Dear Raffaele,
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> Does English "ahem" count for your purposes?
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon
> > I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> > a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> > version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> > way of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
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> > From: Jesse Gates <stauskad at gmail.com>
> > To: hoelzlandreas at web.de
> > Cc: Raffaele Simone <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>, "LINGTYP
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> > Dear Raffaele,
> >
> > I always thought the word ‘cough’ had imitative origins in Germanic.
> >
> > In Chinese 喀 kā (or reduplicated) is a coughing ideophone.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jesse P. Gates, PhD
> > Nankai University, School of Literature 南开大学文学院
> > https://nankai.academia.edu/JesseGates
> >
> > > On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 PM, hoelzlandreas at web.de wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Raffaele,
> > >
> > > Manchu (Tungusic) has the following:
> > >
> > > keng 'the sound of coughing'
> > > keng kang 'the sound of many people coughing or clearing their throats'
> > > kohong kohong or korkong korkong 'the sound of repeated coughing'
> > >
> > > These would usually be integrated into the discourse with the help of
> > the verb se- 'to say' that can also function as a quotative if following
> > ideophones, imperatives, and direct speech.
> > >
> > > One of them is also the basis for the derivation of a verb:
> > >
> > > keng-si- or keng-še- 'to cough, to hack, to clear the throat; ...'
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Andi Hölzl
> > >
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr
> > > Von: "Raffaele Simone" <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
> > > An: "LINGTYP (lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org)" <
> > lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > > Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon
> > I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> > >
> > > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to
> have
> > a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> > version of it.
> > >
> > > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> > way of indicating it in writing?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Raffaele
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Hon C Lund University
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> > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:18:57 +0000
> > From: Maia Ponsonnet <maia.ponsonnet at uwa.edu.au>
> > To: "hoelzlandreas at web.de" <hoelzlandreas at web.de>, Raffaele Simone
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> > Hello,
> > It seems to me that "cough" is used as an ideophone in English comic
> > strips?
> >
> > [cid:0df6ced6-76c2-4e9a-8e7d-cd07453c2e76]
> >
> > Cheers, Maïa
> >
> >
> > Dr Maïa Ponsonnet
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> > ________________________________
> > From: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> > hoelzlandreas at web.de <hoelzlandreas at web.de>
> > Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 11:28 AM
> > To: Raffaele Simone <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
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> > Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >
> > And Mandarin has an ideophone for coughing. For instance, in Guizhou
> > (Southwestern Mandarin) there is:
> >
> > kung kung kung 'the sound of coughing'
> >
> > In Standard Pinyin, this would probably be written kong kong kong, but
> > there does not appear to be a standardized written form for this in
> Chinese
> > either.
> >
> > Followed by the general attributive marker de 的, this can function as an
> > (intensifying) attribute of the noun for 'cough' or 'sound'.
> >
> > It can also be a verb 'to cough'.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Andi Hölzl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr
> > Von: "Raffaele Simone" <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
> > An: "LINGTYP (lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org)" <
> > lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> > happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> a
> > standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> > version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> way
> > of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ===============
> > Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
> > Hon C Lund University
> > Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
> > Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
> > Accademico della Crusca
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 17:56:20 +0000 (UTC)
> From: mohammad rasekh <mrasekhmahand at yahoo.com>
> To: Jess Tauber <tetrahedralpt at gmail.com>
> Cc: LINGTYP LINGTYP <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
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> Dear All,I know of two languages spoken in Iran which use idiophones for
> 'coughing':First, in Turkish spoken in west of Iran, the sound of coughing
> is /kört o kört/, while the verb for coughing is 'osgor-māx'. The sound is
> a reduplicated word which its parts do not occur by their own.Second, In
> Māzandarāni, an Iranian language spoken in north of Iran, the sound for
> coughing is 'pāxxe pāxxe' and the verb for coughing is 'keleš bakerden',
> 'cough do' (to do coughing). Again the sound is a reduplicated word whose
> parts do not occur alone.
> Best,Mohammad
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mohammad Rasekh-Mahand Linguistics Department,Bu-Ali Sina
> University, Hamedan, Iran.Postal Code: 6517838695
> https://basu.academia.edu/MohammadRasekhmahand
>
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2022, 06:19:16 AM PST, Jess Tauber <
> tetrahedralpt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here are the results of the search for terms for 'cough' in Kashaya Pomo,
> a Hokan language from California in the US- no ideophones, however- they
> MAY be present in the text but not caught by the search engine:
> https://www.webonary.org/kashaya?s=cough&search=Search&key=&tax=-1&search_options_set=1&match_whole_words=1&displayAdvancedSearchName=0
> Jess Tauber
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> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:08 AM JOO, Ian [Student] <
> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk> wrote:
>
> The prosaic (non-ideophonic) words for ‘cough’ indeed have iconic
> association to /k/ and /o/. In Johansson et al. (2020), they find that /k/
> and /o/ occur frequently in hundreds of words for ‘cough’ in genealogically
> unrelated languages:
>
> COUGH, LUNG, SNORE and THROAT were also associated with [+round]
> and[back], but instead of /u/, the most commonly occurring cardinal sound
> was /o/in all cases. In addition, COUGH was also associated with [–voice]
> which wasrepresented by the cardinal sound /k/. This seems to suggest that
> the commonphonetic denominator in the macro-concept PHARYNGEAL involves the
> back oforal cavity and possibly also a somewhat more open mouth than the
> vowels ofAIRFLOW.
>
> Johansson, N. E., Anikin, A., Carling, G., & Holmer, A. (2020). The
> typology of sound symbolism: Defining macro-concepts via their semantic and
> phonetic features. Linguistic Typology, 24(2), 253-310.
> Regards,IanOn 11 Mar 2022, 2:59 PM +0100, Giurgea Ion <
> giurgeaion at yahoo.com>, wrote:
>
> Dear all,The Indo-European reconstructed root has a similar ideophonic
> basis - here is the entry in H. Rix (ed.,2001) Lexikon der indogermanischen
> Verben:<1647007130881blob.jpg>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2022, 03:52:52 PM GMT+2, JOO, Ian [Student] <
> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk> wrote:
>
> Dear Rafaelle,
>
> here are the translations of Korean 콜록콜록 khollok-khollok that I have
> retrieved from the Naver Dictionaries (dict.naver.com).
>
> Japanese ごほんごほん, こんこん. gohon-gohon, kon-kon
> Mandarin 喀喀 ，吭吭 ，咳咳 kākā, kēngkēng, kéké
> Vietnamese sù sụ, khù khụ
> Mongolian пөг пөг pög-pög
> Indonesian krok krok
> Thai โขลก ๆ, ค๊อก ๆ, แค๊ก ๆ khlôok khlôok, khóok khóok, khéek khéek
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Also, if you are interested in ideophones and iconicity, please join our
> Facebook group on Iconicity:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lingicon
> We have a monthly Zoom seminar on Iconicity. You are welcome to share your
> work there.
> >From Uppsala,IanOn 11 Mar 2022, 2:22 PM +0100, Csilla Kász, M.A. <
> ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de>, wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> The Hungarian counterpart of a fake cough is quite similar to the Finnish,
> but is usually said twice:
>
> Köhöm-köhöm
>
> the pronunciation is [køhøm]
>
> Best,
>
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> Am 2022-03-11 14:06, schrieb Jussi Ylikoski:
>
> Dear all, [mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation
> and translations forahem, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem with
> the interlanguage links. I just addedkröhöm into the Finnish entry at
> https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem. Best, Jussi
> Frá: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
> David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> Sent: föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> Til: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> Dear all,
>
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
>
> Do other languages have similar forms?
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
>
>
>
> --
> ===============
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> Hon C Lund University
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> Frá: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
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> Sent: föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> Til: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> Dear all,
>
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
>
> Do other languages have similar forms?
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 19:18:49 +0100
> From: Christian Lehmann <christian.lehmann at uni-erfurt.de>
> To: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> Dear Raffaele,
>
> while I have no ideophone for 'cough' to offer, the following
> considerations may prove helpful:
>
> For some time, German has had a verb form which is morphologically the
> pure stem and whose syntactic distribution is essentially that of
> interjections. /Hust/ 'cough' and /hüstel/ 'cough slightly' are among
> these, just as /gähn/ 'yawn', /grins/ 'grin' and many others. German
> grammarians call them /Inflektiv/ (inflective). (Inflectives may be
> onomatopoetic if the verb happens to be onomatopoetic; but this does not
> concern their essence.) They doubtless gained popularity in translations
> of English cartoons. The German wikipedia, and only this one, has an
> article on them.
>
> Some of the earlier answers to your question appear to concern
> inflectives. Regardless of whether they are onomatopoetic, I do not
> think inflectives should be subsumed under ideophones; but that, of
> course, depends on your definition of ideophone.
>
> Again, several of the forms offered in this thread are clearly not
> inflectives. Then again the question arises whether such words are
> ideophones. An ideophone holistically represents the perceptual
> impression of a situation; and on account of its holistic character, it
> either does not integrate into clause syntax or may at most be added as
> an adjunct. Does, e.g., /ahem/ have the same distribution as the typical
> ideophone, like /zig-zag/ and /helter-skelter/? It might rather be an
> interjection.
>
> Sorry for these qualms.
>
> Cheers, Christian
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Am 11.03.2022 um 10:58 schrieb Raffaele Simone:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and
> > lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to
> > have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted
> > written version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> > way of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:22:44 -0500
> From: Jess Tauber <tetrahedralpt at gmail.com>
> To: Christian Lehmann <christian.lehmann at uni-erfurt.de>
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> Dunno if this counts precisely but Tolkien's Gollum with his hacking cough
> being the basis of his name (and the word 'hack' itself).
>
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> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 1:19 PM Christian Lehmann <
> christian.lehmann at uni-erfurt.de> wrote:
>
> > Dear Raffaele,
> >
> > while I have no ideophone for 'cough' to offer, the following
> > considerations may prove helpful:
> >
> > For some time, German has had a verb form which is morphologically the
> > pure stem and whose syntactic distribution is essentially that of
> > interjections. *Hust* 'cough' and *hüstel* 'cough slightly' are among
> > these, just as *gähn* 'yawn', *grins* 'grin' and many others. German
> > grammarians call them *Inflektiv* (inflective). (Inflectives may be
> > onomatopoetic if the verb happens to be onomatopoetic; but this does not
> > concern their essence.) They doubtless gained popularity in translations
> of
> > English cartoons. The German wikipedia, and only this one, has an article
> > on them.
> >
> > Some of the earlier answers to your question appear to concern
> > inflectives. Regardless of whether they are onomatopoetic, I do not think
> > inflectives should be subsumed under ideophones; but that, of course,
> > depends on your definition of ideophone.
> >
> > Again, several of the forms offered in this thread are clearly not
> > inflectives. Then again the question arises whether such words are
> > ideophones. An ideophone holistically represents the perceptual
> impression
> > of a situation; and on account of its holistic character, it either does
> > not integrate into clause syntax or may at most be added as an adjunct.
> > Does, e.g., *ahem* have the same distribution as the typical ideophone,
> > like *zig-zag* and *helter-skelter*? It might rather be an interjection.
> >
> > Sorry for these qualms.
> >
> > Cheers, Christian
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Am 11.03.2022 um 10:58 schrieb Raffaele Simone:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> > happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> a
> > standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> > version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> way
> > of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
> > --
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> > Hon C Lund University
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> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:52:16 +0800
> From: "Randy J. LaPolla" <randy.lapolla at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> In Chinese the unmarked form for ‘cough’ is ké-sòu (咳嗽), both parts of
> which are seen as onomatopoetic.
>
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> > On 11 Mar 2022, at 10:07 PM, JOO, Ian [Student] <
> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk> wrote:
> >
> > The prosaic (non-ideophonic) words for ‘cough’ indeed have iconic
> association to /k/ and /o/. In Johansson et al. (2020), they find that /k/
> and /o/ occur frequently in hundreds of words for ‘cough’ in genealogically
> unrelated languages:
> > COUGH, LUNG, SNORE and THROAT were also associated with [+round] and
> > [back], but instead of /u/, the most commonly occurring cardinal sound
> was /o/
> > in all cases. In addition, COUGH was also associated with [–voice] which
> was
> > represented by the cardinal sound /k/. This seems to suggest that the
> common
> > phonetic denominator in the macro-concept PHARYNGEAL involves the back of
> > oral cavity and possibly also a somewhat more open mouth than the vowels
> of
> > AIRFLOW.
> >
> > Johansson, N. E., Anikin, A., Carling, G., & Holmer, A. (2020). The
> typology of sound symbolism: Defining macro-concepts via their semantic and
> phonetic features. Linguistic Typology, 24(2), 253-310.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ian
> > On 11 Mar 2022, 2:59 PM +0100, Giurgea Ion <giurgeaion at yahoo.com
> <mailto:giurgeaion at yahoo.com>>, wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >> The Indo-European reconstructed root has a similar ideophonic basis -
> here is the entry in H. Rix (ed.,2001) Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben:
> >> <1647007130881blob.jpg>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Friday, March 11, 2022, 03:52:52 PM GMT+2, JOO, Ian [Student] <
> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk <mailto:ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Rafaelle,
> >>
> >> here are the translations of Korean 콜록콜록 khollok-khollok that I have
> retrieved from the Naver Dictionaries (dict.naver.com <
> http://dict.naver.com/>).
> >>
> >> Japanese ごほんごほん, こんこん. gohon-gohon, kon-kon
> >> Mandarin 喀喀 ，吭吭 ，咳咳 kākā, kēngkēng, kéké
> >> Vietnamese sù sụ, khù khụ
> >> Mongolian пөг пөг pög-pög
> >> Indonesian krok krok
> >> Thai โขลก ๆ, ค๊อก ๆ, แค๊ก ๆ khlôok khlôok, khóok khóok, khéek khéek
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Also, if you are interested in ideophones and iconicity, please join
> our Facebook group on Iconicity:
> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lingicon <
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lingicon>
> >> We have a monthly Zoom seminar on Iconicity. You are welcome to share
> your work there.
> >>
> >> From Uppsala,
> >> Ian
> >> On 11 Mar 2022, 2:22 PM +0100, Csilla Kász, M.A. <
> ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de <mailto:ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de>>, wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> The Hungarian counterpart of a fake cough is quite similar to the
> Finnish, but is usually said twice:
> >>>
> >>> Köhöm-köhöm
> >>>
> >>> the pronunciation is [køhøm]
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Csilla
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Csilla Kász
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 2022-03-11 14:06, schrieb Jussi Ylikoski:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> [mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and
> translations for ahem, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem <
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem> with the interlanguage links. I just
> added kröhöm <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m> into the
> Finnish entry at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem <
> https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem>.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jussi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Frá: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org <mailto:
> lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org>> fyrir hönd David Gil <
> gil at shh.mpg.de <mailto:gil at shh.mpg.de>>
> >>>> Sent: föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> >>>> Til: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <mailto:
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> <mailto:lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>>
> >>>> Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and
> "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Do other languages have similar forms?
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and
> lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to
> have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more
> a way of indicating it in writing?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Raffaele
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>> Frá: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org <mailto:
> lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org>> fyrir hönd David Gil <
> gil at shh.mpg.de <mailto:gil at shh.mpg.de>>
> >>>> Sent: föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> >>>> Til: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <mailto:
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> <mailto:lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>>
> >>>> Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and
> "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Do other languages have similar forms?
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and
> lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to
> have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more
> a way of indicating it in writing?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Raffaele
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ===============
> >>>>> Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
> >>>>> Hon C Lund University
> >>>>> Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
> >>>>> Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
> >>>>> Accademico della Crusca
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> http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone>
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 22:44:44 -0500
> From: Jess Tauber <tetrahedralpt at gmail.com>
> To: "Randy J. LaPolla" <randy.lapolla at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> Khalkha Mongolian has roots *XAНГ - and *ХАХ- (Cyrillic spelling), neither
> of which is used ideophonically. The Г is a hard /g/ as in English 'give',
> and the Н is velarized.
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> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:53 PM Randy J. LaPolla <randy.lapolla at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In Chinese the unmarked form for ‘cough’ is ké-sòu (咳嗽), both parts of
> > which are seen as onomatopoetic.
> >
> > Randy
> > ——
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> >
> >
> > On 11 Mar 2022, at 10:07 PM, JOO, Ian [Student] <
> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > The prosaic (non-ideophonic) words for ‘cough’ indeed have iconic
> > association to /k/ and /o/. In Johansson et al. (2020), they find that
> /k/
> > and /o/ occur frequently in hundreds of words for ‘cough’ in
> genealogically
> > unrelated languages:
> >
> > COUGH, LUNG, SNORE and THROAT were also associated with [+round] and
> > [back], but instead of /u/, the most commonly occurring cardinal sound
> was
> > /o/
> > in all cases. In addition, COUGH was also associated with [–voice] which
> > was
> > represented by the cardinal sound /k/. This seems to suggest that the
> > common
> > phonetic denominator in the macro-concept PHARYNGEAL involves the back of
> > oral cavity and possibly also a somewhat more open mouth than the vowels
> of
> > AIRFLOW.
> >
> > Johansson, N. E., Anikin, A., Carling, G., & Holmer, A. (2020). The
> > typology of sound symbolism: Defining macro-concepts via their semantic
> and
> > phonetic features. Linguistic Typology, 24(2), 253-310.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ian
> > On 11 Mar 2022, 2:59 PM +0100, Giurgea Ion <giurgeaion at yahoo.com>,
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> > The Indo-European reconstructed root has a similar ideophonic basis -
> here
> > is the entry in H. Rix (ed.,2001) Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben:
> > <1647007130881blob.jpg>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, March 11, 2022, 03:52:52 PM GMT+2, JOO, Ian [Student] <
> > ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Rafaelle,
> >
> > here are the translations of Korean 콜록콜록 khollok-khollok that I have
> > retrieved from the Naver Dictionaries (dict.naver.com).
> >
> > Japanese ごほんごほん, こんこん. gohon-gohon, kon-kon
> > Mandarin 喀喀 ，吭吭 ，咳咳 kākā, kēngkēng, kéké
> > Vietnamese sù sụ, khù khụ
> > Mongolian пөг пөг pög-pög
> > Indonesian krok krok
> > Thai โขลก ๆ, ค๊อก ๆ, แค๊ก ๆ khlôok khlôok, khóok khóok, khéek khéek
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Also, if you are interested in ideophones and iconicity, please join our
> > Facebook group on Iconicity:
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/lingicon
> > We have a monthly Zoom seminar on Iconicity. You are welcome to share
> your
> > work there.
> >
> > From Uppsala,
> > Ian
> > On 11 Mar 2022, 2:22 PM +0100, Csilla Kász, M.A. <
> ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de>,
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > The Hungarian counterpart of a fake cough is quite similar to the
> Finnish,
> > but is usually said twice:
> >
> > *Köhöm-köhöm*
> >
> > the pronunciation is [køhøm]
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Csilla
> > ---
> > Csilla Kász
> >
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> -
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> >
> > Tel. +49 431 880 2669
> >
> >
> > Am 2022-03-11 14:06, schrieb Jussi Ylikoski:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > [mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and
> > translations for *ahem*, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem with
> the
> > interlanguage links. I just added *kröhöm*
> > <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m> into the Finnish entry
> > at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
> >
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> > *Frá:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
> > David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> > *Sent:* föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> > *Til:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <
> > lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > *Efni:* Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> > to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> > disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> > their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> > I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written
> form.)
> >
> > Do other languages have similar forms?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> > happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> a
> > standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> > version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> way
> > of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
> >
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> > *Frá:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
> > David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> > *Sent:* föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> > *Til:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <
> > lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > *Efni:* Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> > to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> > disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> > their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> > I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written
> form.)
> >
> > Do other languages have similar forms?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> > happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> a
> > standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> > version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> way
> > of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
> >
> > --
> > ===============
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> > Hon C Lund University
> > Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
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> > Accademico della Crusca
> > ===============
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