[Lingtyp] On policing linguistic examples

[Sebastian Nordhoff]

Dear all,
my original question was actually only about the hit/kill part, because 
I have to show that an automatic annotation of linguistic examples for 
"violent" actually has use cases in research which are unrelated to 
violence itself (eg transitivity).

I am aware of the connection between violence and gender, but this was 
not in the scope of my question.

Adam Tallman and Peter Bakker have provided relevant references which 
discuss in passing why "hit" or "kill" do indeed have some very useful 
properties, which explain some of their popularity in linguistic texts. 
Most typologists are or course aware of these properties, but I am 
looking for a reference to back up the claim "'hit' and 'kill' are often 
used in typological examples" for a non-typological paper. Candidate 
references will most likely take a critical stance, but this is no 
requirement.
Best wishes
Sebastian

On 3/18/22 19:18, Hagay Schurr wrote:
> Dear Sebastian,
> 
> 
> I'm only aware of the debate around LSA guidelines in the early 2000's, 
> including, among others, Postal's (2003, 187) reply  :
> 
> 
> "it is arbitrary and discriminatory to try policing them only with 
> respect to one or more favored victim groups, the policing code is 
> necessarily incompatible with the principle of free speech, and, 
> finally, it is in any event not possible to actually codify usage 
> conditions that genuinely pick out all and only the offensive. Given all 
> this, codes like the LSA guidelines are in part harmful and in part 
> useless." (Postal 2003, 187).
> 
> 
> Postal's paper will lead you to some relevant publications that defends 
> policing to some extent.
> 
> Best,
> Hagay
> 
> Postal, P. M. (2003). Policing the content of linguistic 
> examples./Language/,/79/(1), 182-188.
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> Dear all,
> I have occasionally been part in discussions where the frequent use of
> violent concepts such as 'hit' or 'kill' in linguistics is mentioned and
> sometimes criticized.
> 
> I believe there is some research article providing empirical evidence
> for  linguistic articles being unnecessarily "violent", but I am unable
> to locate it. Could the list members help me?
> 
> Best wishes
> Sebastian
> 
> PS: I am aware that 'hit' and 'kill' have a number of semantic
> properties which make them very suitable for a number of research questions.
> 
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