[Lingtyp] query: 1st syllable deletion

[David Gil]

Nice examples, Cat.  Though if the gist of these examples is to suggest 
that deletion can apply to two syllables and not just to one, then I 
would offer an possible alternative analysis whereby your two sentences 
involve the deletion of a reduced monosyllable, applying to forms such as

[zðæt] feel good, baby?
[jə] have any luck?

I look forward to reading the Gerken article mentioned by Adam, which 
seems to capture my intuitions that whatever is going on here is at 
least partly of a phonological nature.

David

On 01/11/2022 11:30, Cat Butz wrote:
> To me, it feels more like a morphosyntactic thing rather than a 
> phonological one. Consider e.g.
>
> (Does that) Feel good, baby?
> (Did you) Have any luck?
>
> ---
> Cat Butz (she/they)
> HHU Düsseldorf, General Linguistics
> Institute of Language and Information
>
> Cat Butz (sie)
> HHU Düsseldorf, Allgemeine Sprachwissenschaft
> Institut für Sprache und Information
>
>
> Am 2022-10-28 14:11, schrieb David Gil:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> English seems to have  a rule which, under particular conditions,
>> allows for the first syllable of an utterance to be deleted. The
>> first example below is from a movie that I saw last night, the next
>> two are made up:
>>
>> (1) (What) The fuck happened to you?
>>
>> (2) (Are) You going home yet?
>>
>> (3) (I) Think it's gonna rain
>>
>> And there's also the formulaic "Wish you were here".
>>
>> My questions:
>>
>> 1. Has anybody written about this? Seems like it could be interesting
>> for a number of reasons.
>>
>> 2. Are there similar phenomena in other languages? (Haven't seen
>> anything like it in the other languages I happen to be familiar with.)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
>> -- 
>> David Gil
>>
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David Gil

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Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
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