[Lingtyp] spatial deictic transfer

[Nigel Vincent]

Dear Sergey,
Sorry, my misunderstanding. In that case the part that should be of particular interest for you is section 2 of chapter 4.
Best
Nigel


Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE
Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
The University of Manchester

Linguistics & English Language
School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
The University of Manchester



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Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] spatial deictic transfer

Dear Nigel,

Thank you for this message! As a matter of fact, I do not mind reading Italian.

Best wishes,

Sergey

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023, 15:21 Nigel Vincent, <nigel.vincent at manchester.ac.uk<mailto:nigel.vincent at manchester.ac.uk>> wrote:
Dear Sergey,
I would second Christian's endorsement of Davide Ricca's excellent book, which I re-read recently in connection with my own work. As far as I can see, however, everything he has written on this topic is in Italian.
Another volume I would recommend is Maud Devos & Jenneke van der Wal (eds) 'Come' and 'Go' off the Beaten Grammaticalization Path, De Gruyter 2014.
Best
Nigel


Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE
Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
The University of Manchester

Linguistics & English Language
School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
The University of Manchester



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Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] spatial deictic transfer


Dear Sergey,



See:

Arkadiev, P. (2020) 'Non-Canonical Inverse In Circassian Languages', Sprachtypologie und Universalienforschung, Vol. 73 (2020), No. 1, pp. 81–111. [Online]. Available at: https://www.academia.edu/37779136/NON-CANONICAL_INVERSE_IN_CIRCASSIAN_LANGUAGES



West and East Circassian (North-West Caucasian) have a cislocative marker qV that usually encodes movement towards a deictic centre (p.88). It also encodes actions performed by agents lower on the person hierarchy towards participants that rank higher if these are realised as indirect objects (pp. 83, 95) and is sensitive to topicality in that topical recipients / indirect objects in general tend to be marked by the cislocative (p. 91).



Best

Rainer



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Dear colleagues,

I am working on the “Ventive” marker in Old Babylonian and Old Assyrian, two East Semitic varieties of the early second millennium BC, both with extensive and reasonably well understood epistolary corpora of private correspondence. The “Ventive” is a directional marker cliticized on motion verbs to indicate motion towards a deictic centre (DC). In the default case, the DC is the location of the speaker/writer, and the Ventive is obligatory in this context. But this marker often appears on verbs describing translocation towards THOU (the addressee of the respective letter), and – though less frequently – towards other goals.

I believe that to encode the motion towards the respective speaker/writer is the primordial and “natural” function of this marker, while the other usages represent “deictic transfers”, somewhat comparable to Bühler’s Deixis am Phantasma. I.e., a “deictic transfer” happens by virtue of the marker’s deictic (or “shifer”, in the sense of Roman Jakobson) nature.

Could you please suggest to me some cross-linguistic analogies and typological studies of spatial deictic shifts, migration of the DC from the speaker to something else?

Thank you very much,

Sergey
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