[Lingtyp] sources: p-word inside and smaller than g-word

[Michael Fiddler]

Hi Adam,

The two attached references might be of interest, Fenger (2020) on Turkish
and Gordon (2005) on Chickasaw.

Best,
Michael


On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 4:47 PM Mark Post <mark.post at sydney.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Adam,
>
> I think you might already be aware of this, but I do discuss and justify
> this analysis for Galo in the attached.
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
> On 29 Mar 2023, at 10:15 am, Woodbury, Anthony C <
> woodbury at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Eric Campbell’s dissertation on the phonology and morphology of
> Zenzontepec Chatino is a good example of what you are looking for, and
> furthermore defines its terms carefully and then supports the p-word inside
> g-word claim carefully. He concludes (p. 319):
>
> "As the discussion in this section has shown, the structure of
> Zenzontepec Chatino is such that a single grammatical word often consists
> of several phonological words since component stems in compounds and all
> enclitics behave as separate phonological words. This is especially the
> case for verbs, which is where the majority of the morphology is found in
> the language. The converse is not true, as there are only a few cases where
> two grammatical words join to form one phonological word, as is the case in
> contractions (§5.8).”
>
> And this is a conclusion one can readily come to for a Zapotecan language,
> since the host for tonemes or tunes is rarely more than three syllables and
> isolable, and uniquely hosts a variety of phonological or
> morphophonological processes; while verbal templates range over domains
> containing potentially many of these tone hosting units.
>
> Tony
>
> Campbell, Eric W. 2014. Aspects of the phonology and morphology of
> Zenzontepec Chatino, an Zapotecan language of Oaxaca, Mexico. University of
> Texas at Austin Doctoral Dissertation.
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2023, at 7:00 AM, Adam James Ross Tallman <
> ajrtallman at utexas.edu> wrote:
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> Hey all,
>
> I'm trying to gather sources on cases where researchers specifically
> discuss elements or constructions whereby a p-word is inside a g-word.
>
> ( ... (...)p_word ... )gword
>
> Woodbury calls these "unclitics" and Z??iga calls these "anticlitics".
> Another well known article by Bickel et al. argues that prefixes in
> Chintang can be regarded as p-words.
>
> Anyone have any recent studies to share on this? I'd be interested. I'm
> specifically interested in researchers that take the time to explain why
> their g-word in such cases should not be considered a phrase (a
> "g-phrase"?). A related issue is why the p-word should not be considered a
> p-stem or a smaller prosodic constituent a? la Downing inter alia.
>
> best,
>
> p.s. not interested in having a debate about whether these things are real,
> just looking for sources. If you want to discuss whether such constructions
> "exist" or whatever, I would appreciate it if you started this on a
> different email chain.
>
> Adam
>
> Z??iga, F.
> (Anti)-cliticization in Mapudungun
> *Morphology, **2014*, 161-175
> Bickel, B.; Banjade, G.; Gaenszle, M.; Lieven, E.; Paudyal, N. P.; Rai, I.
> P.; Rai, M.; Rai, N. K. & Stoll, S.
> Free Prefix Ordering in Chintang
> *Language, **2007**, 83*, 42-73
> Woodbury, A.C.
> Atkan Aleut "unclitic" pronouns and definiteness: A multimodular analysis
> Pragmatics and Autolexical Grammar in honor of Jerry Sadock, Benjamins,
> 2011, 125-141
> Downing, L. J. & Kadenge, M.
> Re-placing PStem in the prosodic hierarchy The Linguistic Review, 2020, 3,
> 433-461
> --
> Adam J.R. Tallman
> Post-doctoral Researcher
> Friedrich Schiller Universit?t
> Department of English Studies
>
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Michael Fiddler
PhD candidate
Department of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
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