[Lingtyp] Lingtyp Digest, Vol 104, Issue 16

Frans Plank frans.plank at ling-phil.ox.ac.uk
Sat May 13 09:39:42 UTC 2023


If this construction that wants a name is all about CONTROL and nothing but CONTROL (but I suspect it isn’t), then there’d be lots of models for naming because control is a major factor in relational typology just about everywhere.  Especially in Bavarian (prefix dɐ-).  And where Nigel’s CONATIVE is in control.  And of course in Salish:
Control in Salish grammar<https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110848731.391/html>
LAURENCE C. THOMPSON
in Relational Typology, ed F. Plank. DeGM, 1985 (and often attended to elsewhere).

Frans

On 12. May 2023, at 11:13, mbardaj1 at uni-koeln.de<mailto:mbardaj1 at uni-koeln.de> wrote:


Dear Tom, dear Voltaire,

Sonja Riesberg, Nikolaus Himmelmann and myself recently wrote about limited-control predicates in western Austronesian languages (which include the "manage to" meaning that you mention) in the following paper:

Bardají, M., Riesberg, S., & Himmelmann, N.P. (2022). Limited-Control Predicates in Western Austronesia: Stative, Dynamic, or None of the Above? Oceanic Linguistics 61(1), 118-165. (https://muse.jhu.edu/article/858601)

Maybe what could be relevant to the constructions that you encountered is section 4.2., where we distinguish between internal abilities (inherent skills of the individual) and external abilities (possibilities determined by external factors such as luck, fate or other outer circumstances). We argue that only external abilities are expressed by limited-control morphology (i.e. potentive), whereas internal abilities are expressed in a different way.

I hope this can be useful!

Best,
Maria Bardají

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