[Lingtyp] Lingtyp Digest, Vol 115, Issue 22
Joseph Brooks
brooks.josephd at gmail.com
Tue Apr 30 16:38:53 UTC 2024
Dear Sergey,
I write about the middle voice construction in Chini (a Papuan language) in
Janic, Puddu and Haspelmath's 2023 volume ("Reflexive constructions in the
world's languages"). If you want a copy just email me privately and I'll
attach. I can't recall offhand if other papers in that volume discuss
middles.
Cheers
Joseph
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> 1. Mapping /l/ to 'tongue' (zamponi_raoul at libero.it)
> 2. Middle Voice (Sergey Loesov)
> 3. Re: Mapping /l/ to 'tongue' (Stefan Savi?)
> 4. Re: Middle Voice (Juergen Bohnemeyer)
> 5. Re: Middle Voice (Silvia Luraghi)
> 6. Re: Middle Voice (Andrea Sans?)
> 7. Re: Middle Voice (Peter Arkadiev)
> 8. Fwd: Secret languages (Anvita Abbi)
> 9. (no subject) (Anvita Abbi)
> 10. Re: Middle Voice (Eric Reuland)
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> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 15:43:57 +0200 (CEST)
> From: zamponi_raoul at libero.it
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> Cc: "raoulzamponi at gmail.com" <raoulzamponi at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Lingtyp] Mapping /l/ to 'tongue'
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> Dear Ian,
>
> I would not claim that ?the common term for ?tongue? has unexpectedly
> acquired /l/, either via irregular sound change? in Latin. This statement
> suggests an ad hoc consonantal change /d/ > /l/, which is not exact because
> in Latin we also have, for example, dacrima > lacrima and doublets such as
> odor / olor (see, for example, Leonard 1980). Also note that alternative
> explanation for dingua > lingua is that the l- of lingua has be adopted
> from the verb ling? ?to lick? (with /l/ from PIE *l).
>
> All the best,
>
> Raoul
>
> References
>
> Leonard, Clifford S. (1980). The role of */l/ in rhotacism. In Herbert J.
> Izzo (ed.), Italic and Romance linguistic studies in honor of Ernst
> Pulgram. Amsterdam: Benjamins.
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> From: Sergey Loesov <sergeloesov at gmail.com>
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> Dear colleagues,
>
> Are you aware of discussions of the so-called Middle Voice postdating Susan
> Kemmer's book "The Middle Voice" (1993)?
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Sergey
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> From: Stefan Savi? <stefansavicz at gmail.com>
> To: JOO Ian <joo at res.otaru-uc.ac.jp>
> Cc: "<LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>"
> <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Mapping /l/ to 'tongue'
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> Dear Ian,
>
> In isiXhosa the word for language is *ulwimi* and it is reconstructed as
> Proto-Bantu **dudimi *(
>
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Bantu/d%CA%8A%CC%80d%C9%AA%CC%81m%C3%AC#cite_note-1
> ) although Proto-Bantu *d > Nguni l is a regular sound change.
>
> Best,
> Stefan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024, 4:29?AM JOO Ian via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear typologists,
> >
> > I have noticed two interesting parallel phenomena:
> >
> > 1. Latin *dingua* 'tongue' replaced by *lingua*, for unknown reason;
> > 2. Middle Chinese *zyet* ? 'tongue' replaced by *lei* ? in Cantonese (and
> > other southern Sinitic lects), which is apparently for euphemistic
> reason -
> > Cantonese *sit3* ? sounds similar to *sik6* ? ?to corrode? - but still
> > unclear why it had to be *lei* among all other sounds.
> >
> > There seems to be diachronic pressure to map /l/ into ?tongue?. This is
> in
> > line with the fact several typological studies confirming that /l/ is
> > abnormally common in words for ?tongue? in world?s languages (Blast et
> al.
> > 2016, Joo 2020, Erben Johansson et al. 2020).
> >
> > I would thus like to ask (historical) typologists whether you are aware
> of
> > similar phenomena where the common term for ?tongue? has unexpectedly
> > acquired /l/, either via irregular sound change (like Latin) or lexical
> > replacement (like Cantonese).
> >
> > From Otaru,
> > Ian
> >
> > *References*
> >
> > Blasi, Dami?n E et al. ?Sound-meaning association biases evidenced across
> > thousands of languages.? *Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
> > of the United States of America* vol. 113,39 (2016): 10818-23.
> > doi:10.1073/pnas.1605782113
> >
> > Joo, Ian. "Phonosemantic biases found in Leipzig-Jakarta lists of 66
> > languages" Linguistic Typology, vol. 24, no. 1, 2020, pp. 1-12.
> > doi:10.1515/lingty-2019-0030
> >
> > Erben Johansson et al. "The typology of sound symbolism: Defining
> > macro-concepts via their semantic and phonetic features" Linguistic
> > Typology, vol. 24, no. 2, 2020, pp. 253-310. doi:10.1515/lingty-2020-2034
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > ? ??
> > JOO, IAN
> > ???
> > Associate Professor
> > ??????
> > Otaru University of Commerce
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > ? ianjoo.github.io
> > ? +81 (0)134-27-5422
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> From: Juergen Bohnemeyer <jb77 at buffalo.edu>
> To: Sergey Loesov <sergeloesov at gmail.com>,
> "LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Middle Voice
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> Dear Sergey ? Possibly of minor interest:
>
> Bohnemeyer, J. (2007). Morpholexical Transparency and the argument
> structure of verbs of cutting and breaking. Cognitive Linguistics 18(2):
> 153-177.
>
> Looks at both lexical and discourse-pragmatic factors driving the use of
> the two construction types that different terminological traditions call
> ?middles.?
>
> Cheers ? Juergen
>
>
> Juergen Bohnemeyer (He/Him)
> Professor, Department of Linguistics
> University at Buffalo
>
> Office: 642 Baldy Hall, UB North Campus
> Mailing address: 609 Baldy Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260
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>
> Office hours Tu/Th 3:30-4:30pm in 642 Baldy or via Zoom (Meeting ID 585
> 520 2411; Passcode Hoorheh)
>
> There?s A Crack In Everything - That?s How The Light Gets In
> (Leonard Cohen)
> --
>
>
> From: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Date: Monday, April 29, 2024 at 11:29
> To: LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Subject: [Lingtyp] Middle Voice
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Are you aware of discussions of the so-called Middle Voice postdating
> Susan Kemmer's book "The Middle Voice" (1993)?
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Sergey
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> From: Silvia Luraghi <luraghi at unipv.it>
> To: Juergen Bohnemeyer <jb77 at buffalo.edu>
> Cc: Sergey Loesov <sergeloesov at gmail.com>,
> "LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Middle Voice
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> Hi Sergey,
> I suggest you read this paper:
>
> -
>
> Inglese, Guglielmo. 2023. The rise of middle voice systems: a study in
> diachronic typology
> <https://www.jbe-platform.com/content/journals/10.1075/dia.20058.ing>.
> Diachronica 40(2): 195?237.
>
>
> Il lun 29 apr 2024, 19:55 Juergen Bohnemeyer via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:
>
> > Dear Sergey ? Possibly of minor interest:
> >
> >
> >
> > Bohnemeyer, J. (2007). Morpholexical Transparency and the argument
> > structure of verbs of cutting and breaking. *Cognitive Linguistics*
> > 18(2): 153-177.
> >
> >
> >
> > Looks at both lexical and discourse-pragmatic factors driving the use of
> > the two construction types that different terminological traditions call
> > ?middles.?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers ? Juergen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Juergen Bohnemeyer (He/Him)
> > Professor, Department of Linguistics
> > University at Buffalo
> >
> > Office: 642 Baldy Hall, UB North Campus
> > Mailing address: 609 Baldy Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260
> > Phone: (716) 645 0127
> > Fax: (716) 645 3825
> > Email: jb77 at buffalo.edu
> > Web: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jb77/
> >
> > Office hours Tu/Th 3:30-4:30pm in 642 Baldy or via Zoom (Meeting ID 585
> > 520 2411; Passcode Hoorheh)
> >
> > There?s A Crack In Everything - That?s How The Light Gets In
> > (Leonard Cohen)
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> > Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > *Date: *Monday, April 29, 2024 at 11:29
> > *To: *LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> > >
> > *Subject: *[Lingtyp] Middle Voice
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you aware of discussions of the so-called Middle Voice postdating
> > Susan Kemmer's book "The Middle Voice" (1993)?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sergey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:22:00 +0200
> From: Andrea Sans? <andrea.sanso at uninsubria.it>
> To: Sergey Loesov <sergeloesov at gmail.com>
> Cc: "LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Middle Voice
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> Dear Sergey,
>
> there is a special issue of STUF - Language Typology and Universals (volume
> 76, issue 2, 2023) guest-edited by Guglielmo Inglese and me dedicated to
> the emergence of middle voice systems. All the articles are open-access.
>
> Another paper by Guglielmo Inglese has been already suggested by Silvia.
>
> Best wishes,
> Andrea
>
> Il lun 29 apr 2024, 17:29 Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:
>
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > Are you aware of discussions of the so-called Middle Voice postdating
> > Susan Kemmer's book "The Middle Voice" (1993)?
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> >
> > Sergey
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> From: Peter Arkadiev <peterarkadiev at yandex.ru>
> To: Andrea Sans? <andrea.sanso at uninsubria.it>, Sergey Loesov
> <sergeloesov at gmail.com>
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> From: Anvita Abbi <anvitaabbi at gmail.com>
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> From: Anvita Abbi <anvitaabbi at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2024, 2:59 PM
> Subject: Secret languages
> To: list, typology <LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org?>
>
>
> Hi
> Does anyone have any knowledge of a database on secret languages such as
> those used by LGBTQ and others in higher echelon of the society as priests?
> Is there any statistics available as what percentage of a society uses
> secret languages?
> Anvita
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> Hi
> Does anyone have any knowledge of a database on secret languages such as
> those used by LGBTQ and others in the higher echelon of the society as
> priests?
> Is there any statistics available as to what percentage of a society uses
> secret languages?
> Anvita
> Prof. (Dr.) Anvita Abbi
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anvita_Abbi
> Adjunct Professor, Department of Linguistics, Simon Fraser University, B.C.
> Vancouver, Canada & B.B. Borkar Chair, Goa University, Goa
> *Formerly: Guest Scientist, Max Planck Institute of Evolutionary
> Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany.*
> *Leverhulme Professor, SOAS, University of London, UK*
> *Professor and Chair of the Centre for Linguistics*
> *Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, India*
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> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 18:31:10 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Eric Reuland <ericreuland at yahoo.com>
> To: "LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
> <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>, Sergey Loesov
> <sergeloesov at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Middle Voice
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>
> Dear Sergey and others,?
> I would also like to draw attention to Marijana Marelj's dissertation:
> Middles and Argument Structure across Languages.
> All the best, Eric
>
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> Marijana Marelj - Middles and Argument Structure across Languages
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> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 05:30:08 PM GMT+2, Sergey Loesov via
> Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
> Are you aware of discussions of the so-called Middle Voice postdating
> Susan Kemmer's book "The Middle Voice" (1993)?
> Thank you very?much!
> Sergey
>
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