[Lingtyp] A query on comparative correlative clauses

David Gil dapiiiiit at gmail.com
Fri Dec 6 04:51:21 UTC 2024


Dear Theodor, all,



In dialects of Malay/Indonesian, as well as closely related Minangkabau,
comparative correlatives are formed with the construction "makin X makin
Y", where "makin" means something like 'increasingly'.  Numerous examples
can be found in the Gil et al (2015) corpus by searching for "makin"; here
is one such example from Minangkabau:



makin jauah talampok nyo sesuatu, makin tinggi nilai nyo

increasingly far INVOL:shut 3 one:thing increasingly high value 3

'The further something is covered, the higher its value'



Best,



David



Gil, David, Uri Tadmor, John Bowden and Bradley Taylor (2015) *Data from
the Jakarta Field Station, Department of Linguistics, Max Planck Institute
for Evolutionary Anthropology*, 1999-2015. [
https://archive.mpi.nl/islandora/object/lat%3A1839_00_0000_0000_0021_10DE_A]

On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 5:29 AM Maria Koptjevskaja Tamm via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am posting a query from our student Theodor Brus, who is looking for
> data and information on comparative correlative clauses across languages.
>
> "Hello! My name is Theodor Brus and i am writing my bachelor thesis this
> spring at the Department of linguistics at Stockholm University. I want to
> do a typological study of comparative correlative clauses (CCs). Sag (2010,
> p. 526) defines comparative correlative clauses as ‘monotonic relations
> between two differentials’. However, there is often a causative function in
> one direction, the first element is the reason for the state of the second
> element. The following examples illustrate this point.
>
> ‘The worse I feel, the less inclined I am to get to work’
>
> ‘The more the sun shone, the happier people got’
>
> What I am looking for are glossed sentences from any language that have a
> free translation which corresponds to an English CC. I would also
> be grateful for pointers to descriptions and discussion of these phenomena
> in various languages.
>
> Please send your replies to me, brus at ling.su.se All responses will be
> grossly appreciated and acknowledged.
>
> Sag, I. A. (2010). ENGLISH FILLER-GAP CONSTRUCTIONS. *Language*, *86*(3),
> 486–545. http://www.jstor.org/stable/40961690”
>
> Kind regards,
> Maria Koptjevskaja Tamm
>
>
> Prof. Maria Koptjevskaja Tamm
> Dept. of linguistics, Stockholm university, 106 91, Stockholm, Sweden
> Editor-in-chief of “Linguistic Typology”
> President-Elect of Societas Linguistic Europaea
> www.ling.su.se/tamm
> tamm at ling.su.se
>
>
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David Gil

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Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
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