[Lingtyp] function of fully reduplicated nouns

Paolo Ramat paoram at unipv.it
Thu Aug 7 14:53:44 UTC 2025


Dear  Joseph and All
to my knowledge the most recent article on reduplication is my contribution
to the Festschrift fuer Thomas  Stolz published by De Gruyter : " Exploring
Structures in Languages " 2025. The title of my article is '
Whhat(ever)will be, will be'
Different types of RED are discussed there.
Best, Paolo.

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Il Gio 7 Ago 2025, 13:15 SIMONE MATTIOLA via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:

> Dear Joseph and everyone,
>
> As Camil Staps mentioned, you can find some information on the functions
> of reduplicated nouns across languages in Mattiola & Barotto (2023).
> Additionally, as Alex pointed out, it's not uncommon in the languages of
> the world to have "opposite" functions expressed through reduplicative
> patterns (though often not the same pattern as in Mwotlap).
>
> To my knowledge, reduplicative patterns used to express the superlative
> function (in its strict sense, not just prototypicality or intensification)
> are rarely attested cross-linguistically. However, in a very recent work of
> mine (unpublished yet), I found some cases of comparatives and superlatives
> expressed through reduplication (not full though) in certain Salishan
> languages (for example, Upper Chehalis). You might want to look at a recent
> PhD thesis on reduplication in Salishan languages (Mellesmoen 2025).
>
> I also want to note that I am not sure we can consider cases like "deal of
> deals" as true reduplication, since between the two elements occur a
> subordinating relation and they occupy different "slots" within another
> construction (English Genitive Construction: X of Y), thus probably not
> being a repetition of the same element (X-X/X X), but rather two distinct
> elements filling different "positions" in a construction, and these
> positions are instantiated (let's say by chance) by two forms of the same
> lexical item (X of X-PL).
>
> Best,
> Simone
>
> - Mattiola, Simone & Alessandra Barotto. 2023. Nominal reduplication in
> cross-linguistic perspective: from PLURALITY to CHANGE OF REFERENTS’
> SPECIFICITY. *Studies in language *47(1). 135-189.
> https://doi.org/10.1075/sl.21050.mat
> - Mellesmoen, Gloria Madeleine. 2025. *The grammar of Salish
> reduplication*. Vancouver, BC: University of British Columbia
> dissertation.
> https://open.library.ubc.ca/soa/cIRcle/collections/ubctheses/24/items/1.0448511
>
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>
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> Il giorno gio 7 ago 2025 alle ore 12:14 Stefan Savić via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> No references come to mind, only two more examples with a superlative
>> function from BCMS (Bosnian-Croatian-Mobntenegrin-Serbian):
>>
>> na kraju krajeva 'at the end of the day, lit. on end of (all) ends'
>>
>> dno dna 'rock bottom, used metaphorically, often to describe someone's
>> reprehensive behaviour or acts, lit. bottom of (the) bottom'
>>
>> Best,
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025, 6:46 PM Joseph Brooks via Lingtyp <
>> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone knows of any (cross-ling or for specific
>> languages) work on this type of construction where a noun/phrase can be
>> fully reduplicated for a superlative function or other meanings such as an
>> especially remarkable or exaggerated instance of something. For ex in Chini
>> (Lower Sepik-Ramu, PNG) anggunu 'mosquito' vs anggunu anggunu '(place known
>> for) especially bad mosquitoes'. Or as in English 'man's man', 'deal of
>> deals'.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph
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