8.24, Qs: Kumzari, Nautical terms, Latin

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Subject: 8.24, Qs: Kumzari, Nautical terms, Latin

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1)
Date:  Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:26:42 +0800
From:  TomV at mm.wa.gov.au (Tom Vosmer)
Subject:  Kumzari

2)
Date:  Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:28:20 +0800
From:  TomV at mm.wa.gov.au (Tom Vosmer)
Subject:  Arabic/Portuguese nautical terms

3)
Date:  Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:20:02 -0500
From:  firsten1 at icanect.net (Richard Firsten)
Subject:  Vulgar/Colloquial Latin

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:26:42 +0800
From:  TomV at mm.wa.gov.au (Tom Vosmer)
Subject:  Kumzari

Dear Linguists,
In the remote village of Kumzar in the Musandam peninsula of northern Oman
is spoken a dialect that apparently displays influences from Portuguese and
Farsi as well as Arabic. Could anyone provide information about whether any
of the follwing terms or cognisants exist in Farsi or Portuguese?
Unfortunately, the  spelling in Arabic characters did not transfer to this
format.


English                                         English transliteration
Anchor cat                                      kalb (Arabic 'dog')
Beam (aft deck, main)                           kbrat
Bitt (small, carved decoration)                 mkheiza
Bow tassel (on zarooqa)                         kasht
Bulkhead                                        fahta
Carling (short stretcher)                       walag
Cheek piece                                     mist (pl. msoot)
Cheek piece (lower)                             miyook
Cheek piece (forward extension of upper)        lanshak
Deck                                            fashar
Drain hole                                      gourdi
Fore deck                                       fashar sinoh
Frame                                           jermit
Gusset (aft caprail)                            kussailom
Gusset (fore caprail)                           arroseh, khanakh
Hold (main)                                     kamim
Hold (under aft deck)                           majah, majal
Hold (under fore deck)                          ahzaq
Hole in deck for 'ubaidar                       kamlee
Keel                                            'arro
Mast step                                       'ostem
Notch between msoot for leading edge of rudder  sidoom
Ring for rigging                                ilka
Scupper                                         merzeb
Sheer clamp                                     til
Stem                                            mil
Storage space, port side                        sfara
Storage space, starboard side                   bandul
Stretcher                                       ashee
Thole pin                                       ghoss

Many thanks,

Tom Vosmer


Tom Vosmer
Department of Maritime Archaeology
Western Australian Maritime Museum
Cliff Street
FREMANTLE WA 6160
TomV at mm.wa.gov.au
(61-9)4318439 (work) 3361716 (home)
(61-9)3355351 fax or 3361716 (home)
See us on the WWW at
http://www.mm.wa.gov.au/Museum.html


-------------------------------- Message 2 -------------------------------

Date:  Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:28:20 +0800
From:  TomV at mm.wa.gov.au (Tom Vosmer)
Subject:  Arabic/Portuguese nautical terms

To multple recipients of The LINGUIST Discussion List:

I am searching for the etymological links between Portuguese and Arabic
nautical terms during the late 15th and early 16th century. Loan-words from
either language can give insights into the influences and innovations in
maritime technology generated by the contact between the two cultures.
Specifically, there are Arabic nautical words which ostensibly derive from
Portuguese, while other Arabic nautical terms have no apparent such link,
even though the technology or innovation is believed to have been
introduced to the Arabs by the Portuguese. Could anyone confirm the
etymology or provide the English and/or Portuguese translation of the
following Arabic terms?

Arabic                  Portuguese                      English

karwa...................curva     ......................
kwesiyyah...............          ......................
koursi..................          ......................base?, foundation?

kawiya..................          ......................to clench
furma
..................          ......................template

kalfat..................kalfat?   ......................to caulk
rig'a ..................          ......................transom


Tom Vosmer
Department of Maritime Archaeology
Western Australian Maritime Museum
Cliff Street
FREMANTLE WA 6160
TomV at mm.wa.gov.au
(61-9)4318439 (work) 3361716 (home)
(61-9)3355351 fax or 3361716 (home)
See us on the WWW at
http://www.mm.wa.gov.au/Museum.html


-------------------------------- Message 3 -------------------------------

Date:  Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:20:02 -0500
From:  firsten1 at icanect.net (Richard Firsten)
Subject:  Vulgar/Colloquial Latin

Is there a grammar book that discusses how Latin was actually spoken
by the everyday Roman, let's say, during the time of the Republic or
Early Empire?  I would greatly appreciate any leads you can give
me. Thank you!

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