8.391, Qs: Ivory tower, Maximal onset, Lullaby

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Subject: 8.391, Qs: Ivory tower, Maximal onset, Lullaby

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1)
Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:55:58 -0800
From:  mbecker at ucla.edu (Misha Becker)
Subject:  question: ivory tower

2)
Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 1997 09:27:13 -0800
From:  Ivan A Derzhanski <iad at banmatpc.math.acad.bg>
Subject:  Q: MOP

3)
Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:14:49 -0800
From:  Pedro de Cuba <agatha at villagenet.com>
Subject:  Lullaby

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:55:58 -0800
From:  mbecker at ucla.edu (Misha Becker)
Subject:  question: ivory tower

Hi linguists,

Does anyone know how the term "ivory tower" came to refer to academia, and
especially why it has a disparaging connotation? Did it always have this
connotation?

Thanks!
Misha Becker
mbecker at ucla.edu


-------------------------------- Message 2 -------------------------------

Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 1997 09:27:13 -0800
From:  Ivan A Derzhanski <iad at banmatpc.math.acad.bg>
Subject:  Q: MOP

Having got myself into a discussion of phonology (not my linguistic forte)
on another net.forum, I feel it's time to appeal to the experts for advice.
Questions:

* Do I understand correctly that the Maximal Onset Principle implies
  that a VCCV sequence will always be syllabified as V-CCV if the CC
  cluster in question can occur word-initially in the same language?

* Is the Maximal Onset Principle an absolute universal?  If not, what
  are (some of) the exceptions?

Gratefully,
- Ivan A Derzhanski


-------------------------------- Message 3 -------------------------------

Date:  Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:14:49 -0800
From:  Pedro de Cuba <agatha at villagenet.com>
Subject:  Lullaby

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Hi Folks:

My mother used to sing us to sleep with a lullaby that SOUNDED as
follows:

Zeem, zeem, zeem
Aleman prozeem
leiko
Pero pero mi patroon
Sananko mi koket
Boochi chalie
Pan kaki=F1a
Yoko pra
Pra, pra

I would like to identify the lullaby, the language in which it is
written and, of course, the translation.  Any help will be greatly
appreciated.  If it of any help, I learned this lullaby (on Aruba)
phonetically since my mother knew the song but not its meaning.

Thanks,

agatha

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